Flak-Regiment 155

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 02 Feb 2006 10:23

Hello SES

You are right in your "thoughts" !!

The 10th. of August 1944 the Flakgruppe Creil - III and IV Abteilung - was moved to the north - and the Gefechtsstand Saleux was moved to the area of Lille.

Oberst Wachtel was out on recon for a new "einsatsgebiet" and was looking at the Lager Maria ter Heide - 12 kms. north of Antwerpen. With 1600 men he schould form I/255 (W).

The 18th. of August they received the order for "Stellungswechsel" and on 23rd. of August they moved into Croix near Raubaix and buildt up their Gefeshtsstand in two old warehouses in Rue de la Caro.

To conseal the Flakgruppe Creil the folowing Decknahmen were used:

Flakgerätepark West.

I. Abteilung - Rotenburg
II. Abteilung - Markgraf
III. Abteilung - Köningsbruck
IV. Abteilung - Altenburg

Already on the 30th. of August they were ordered to move the II - III -IV Abteilung to Holland and the V Abteilung to Lüdenscheid.

The 1st. of September they were ordered to blow up their material of the IV. Abteilung already loaded on trains and proceed "Zu Fuss" towards Maria ter Heide in Holland. All communicationlines were cut and their Nachschub were destroyed.

They as a whole regiment did not reach active status, only the I. Abteilung were able to fire from 20 positions but at "4.00 uhr" the 1. september 1944 the last V1 left the ramps.

"Der Ersteinsatz des Vergeltungsangriffe war beendet"

They were to continue the operations from Holland and in the Eifel area, where they also received "Neugliederungen" !!!

Source: Wilhelm Hellmold - Die V1 Eine Dokumentation - page 231 - 235

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

SES · Post by **SES** » 02 Feb 2006 10:35

Hi Kurt,
Thank you, another piece to the puzzle.
bregds
SES

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 13 Feb 2006 11:35

Hello

Any news from all the "studying / reading / researching" people ???

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 06 Mar 2006 09:27

Hello

Well, everybody has the nose deep in the books and archives at the moment

Including me.....I have got some books recently:

Hitlers V-Weapons Sites - Phillip Henshall
Les Armes Secretes Allemandes - Regis Grenneville
Atlantikwall en geheime Wapens - Ph. Despriet
Armies Secreties et Ouvrages Mysterieux - Myrone N. Cuich
Die Deutsche Geheimwaffen - Roger Ford
Die Geheime Wunderwaffen des III Reiches - J. Miranda / P. Mercado
V2 - Walter Dornberger

From those I have managed to get more V1 sites in order by number and location, but of course also some new questions !!

I have also heard ( rumor ) that a new book is out about the Flakregiment 155 W and Oberst Max Wachtel.

In that book a large part of the KTB of Flakregiment 155 W i reproduced - anybody know anything about that book ????

I will come back, with an updated list of sites....and a lot of new questions.

Regards
Kurt
kstdk.

Larry D. · Post by **Larry D.** » 06 Mar 2006 14:04

kstdk wrote:

I have also heard ( rumor ) that a new book is out about the Flakregiment 155 W and Oberst Max Wachtel.
In that book a large part of the KTB of Flakregiment 155 W i reproduced - anybody know anything about that book ????

The only book that I know of that has reproduced - in whole or in part - the actual Flak-Rgt. 155 (W) KTB und Anlagen material is:

Vergeltung: Das Flakregiment 155 (W). Norderstedt: Militär-Verlag Klaus D. Patzwall, c. 1984. 119p. 12 photo pages. DM 32,00. [The complete history of the Regiment from formation to the end of the war taken directly from its KTB].

No author is ever given for this book, so I think Klaus Patzwall put it together himself.

So, the question is whether or not this is the book you are referring to, or possibly a reprint of it, or has someone written a completely new book on the subject?

--Larry

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 06 Mar 2006 19:01

Hello Larry

Well...I am not sure. What i have heard, again "hearsay" - is that it schould be a new book - either out now or about to be printed ?

But i will take a search - and see what comes up !!!

Regards
Kurt
kstdk.

Larry D. · Post by **Larry D.** » 06 Mar 2006 20:24

Well, let's hope it's a new and complete one that will answer all of our questions.

Please let us know what you find out from your search.

Best,

--Larry

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 06 Mar 2006 22:35

Hello all

Anyone have the BAMA Archive files:

RL 12/521 Flakgruppe Creil
RL 12/76 Flakregiment 155 (W)

????????

http://www.lwag.org/reference/barl001.pdf

Regards
Kurt
kstdk.

bunker14 · Post by **bunker14** » 07 Mar 2006 15:37

Hi

the 155 Flak regiment was instructed to go ahead and launch the V1's.
but what regiment to launch V2's??

ben

SES · Post by **SES** » 07 Mar 2006 16:10

Hi bunker 14,
May I suggest you start a new thread please. When you have, I have some info and links which might be of interest. And BTW it should be in the Heer section in order to arouse the right experts.
bregds
SES

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 08 Mar 2006 09:36

Hello

As SES already suggested, that you open a new thread on this topic. Under the Heer and SS section - with the topic:

Under Generalleutnant Kammler - SS Division zbV - V2 - and the main units:

SS-wF Abt.500
Gr. Nord - 485 Art. Abt (Mot) with 1/485 - 2/485 - 3/485
Gr. Süd - 836 Art.Abt (Mot) with 1/836 - 2/836 - 3/836

These units were some of those operating the V-2 operations in 1944-45.

For further info, please see:

http://www.v2rocket.com/

SES wrote:Hi bunker 14,
May I suggest you start a new thread please. When you have, I have some info and links which might be of interest. And BTW it should be in the Heer section in order to arouse the right experts.
bregdsSES

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

Larry D. · Post by **Larry D.** » 08 Mar 2006 14:22

That's a great web site, Kurt! Any site that is supported by.....
Hofbräuhaus München
Einer meiner Lieblinge!
......will be a favorite of mine!

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 08 Mar 2006 14:36

Hello Larry

Yes....thats one reason

Apart from that it has almost any information about the V-2 operations

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

EricZ · Post by **EricZ** » 12 Mar 2006 09:31

Hi

Does anyone of you know, if parts of this Regiment ever had been in time 1944/1945 in the Duisburg-Mülheim area in Germany?

In the woods between Duisburg and Mülheim you can find some (34) concrete blocks parallel to a railway section. The rumour is that from this place V1 should have been fired against Antwerpen. I couldn´t find until now any hint to verify this buzz.

Please have a look to some pic´s: http://de.msnusers.com/GarnisonDuisburg ... 7673479329

Cheers, Eric

Larry D. · Post by **Larry D.** » 12 Mar 2006 15:14

Eric -

Neither picture can be shown - both have been replaced with the "dreaded" red "x" and will not open when right clicked to "Open Picture".

After the retreat from France and Belgium, the V-Waffen Regimenter were brought together under the 5. Flak-Division (W), with Divisionsstab in the Hamburg-Bad Segeberg area, which had been reestablished to control all V1 and V2 units. The Division controlled the following:

Flak-Regiment 155 (W)
Flak-Regiment 255 (W)
Luftnachrichten-Betriebs-Kompanie 125
Luftnachrichten-Abteilung 155 (W)

F-Rgt. 155 (W) set up new launch sites in the Eifel in September and October and on 21 Oct 44 began firing on Brussels, launching 55 V-1s over the next several days. However, on 1 Nov 44 the Regiment was ordered to shift the center of its operations to central Holland with Antwerpen as its primary target. On 29 Mar 45 it withdrew from central Holland into NW Germany.

F-Rgt. 255 (W) was the V-2 regiment and it too operated from the Netherlands. Interestingly, on 17 Mar 45 it fired 11 V-2s from Holland at the Ludendorff Brücke bei Remagen! This was the only known tactical use of either the V-1 or V-2 during the war.
Philip Henshall’s book provides good coverage of V-1 and V-2 sites and operations, only mentions Holland and not the Eifel. I have found no mention of Duisburg-Mülheim as a V-Waffen site, but that certainly doesn't eliminate the possibility that a site was constructed in that area. Anything is possible.

5. Flak-Division (W) srrendered at the beginning of May 45 in the Hamburg area.

[Sources: Henshall, Philip. The Nuclear Axis. Thrupp/Stroud: Sutton Publishing, 2000, p.22; Irving, David. The Mare’s Nest. London: William Kimber, 1964; MacDonald, Charles B. The Last Offensive. The European Theater of Operations/United States Army in World War II. WashDC: OCMH/U.S. Army, 1973, pp.228 and 230].

--Larry

P.S. You might want to check Heinz-Dieter Hölsken, Die V-Waffen: Entstehung, Propaganda, Kriegseinsatz (Stuttgart: Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt, 1984).