SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Huska » 15 Jan 2019, 12:12

Can someone give me some info on this photo?

Don't understand this language from the book
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 15 Jan 2019, 12:19

Hello, Huska

Recruiting (most likely) for the German Police in Croatia.

Photo source: http://www.kriegsberichter-archive.com/ ... ategory/38

Note that there is "Handschar" mentioned in the album description, but that's an error; there are no "Handschar" troops in Westermann's photos. Pictured soon after the recruiting scene are recruits of the German police (see page 2). There is also a police recruitment poster pictured.

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As we mentioned before (here), the soldier that appears at the end of the Westermann album wearing a "Handschar" collar patch (this one) was a member of the newly-formed "Skanderbeg" Division, who previously served in the Albanian Battalion of the "Handschar" Division.


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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by balkanguy44 » 15 Jan 2019, 16:22

Hello, Ivan

It's not a Handschar related question but are the recruits of the German Police who are wearing an uniform (page 2, Westermann) Muslims?

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 15 Jan 2019, 16:35

Hello BG44,

That I can't know. As was mentioned earlier, Muslim units (German/Croatian/Partisan), besides the usual headgear (helmets / side caps), wore fezzes. That was basically what distinguished them from other units, in appearance. However, Muslim units in the SS / German Police were supplied with fezzes in late 1943 (at least I know that the "Handschar" was, but I doubt that the police got fezzes before the Waffen-SS), and Westermann photos were taken months earlier. There's nothing I can see in them that could indicate whether the recruits were Muslims/Catholics/etc. They all wear the standard German gear.

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by balkanguy44 » 15 Jan 2019, 16:37

Hello, Ivan

Thank your for the explanation!

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Huska » 16 Jan 2019, 12:46

Does anyone have Mielkes photo but without censored symbols?

(I mentioned the source on the previous pages)


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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by ninoo » 17 Jan 2019, 09:47

Dear Huska and BG, these are your pics
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by balkanguy44 » 17 Jan 2019, 10:35

Hello, Ninoo

Thank you very much.

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by balkanguy44 » 17 Jan 2019, 16:36

Hello everyone!

As many of you know the division operated in the area around and in the Bosnian town Tuzla. I’ve never seen a picture that was taken in Tuzla, at least not a confirmed picture. Does anyone know where to find one?
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Huska » 19 Jan 2019, 19:21

Anybody know the original source of this photo?


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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by balkanguy44 » 19 Jan 2019, 22:46

Huska wrote:
19 Jan 2019, 19:21
Anybody know the original source of this photo?



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BA.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 19 Jan 2019, 22:58

balkanguy44 wrote:
19 Jan 2019, 22:46
Huska wrote:
19 Jan 2019, 19:21
Anybody know the original source of this photo?
BA.
I don't know about Bundesarchiv (it's not listed at their website), but there's a high quality copy at Süddeutsche Zeitung Photo:
https://www.sz-photo.de/?16607724099100 ... UP_SCOPE=1

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By the way, part of the photo ended up on a cover of Kölnische Illustrierte Zeitung in Dec. 1943:
https://www.dhm.de/datenbank/dhm?seite=5&fld_0=VLT00101

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Huska » 19 Jan 2019, 23:25

Thanks guys!

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by Huska » 20 Jan 2019, 01:04

Anybody know the name of this documentary

https://youtu.be/7Q1xrlwxX_I
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

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Post by balkanguy44 » 20 Jan 2019, 12:04

Huska wrote:
20 Jan 2019, 01:04
Anybody know the name of this documentary

https://youtu.be/7Q1xrlwxX_I
They use 12th SS Hitlerjugend footage for a “documentary” about Muslims in the SS..
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