Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

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Post by michalst » 12 Aug 2007 11:20

As far as I know there where no Kalmucks and Vlasov's units in Warsaw. Vlasov's army was created after the Uprising. Some of the ex-Soviet foreigners that fought with Hitler where later moved to Vlasov's army (RONA and some others), but at the time of the rising he had no troops under his command.

The problem with Dirlewanger's Sonderkammando is that both battalions where mixed up with Germans and ex-Soviet POWs. According to Jaroslaw Gdanski Russians served in the first battalion and Ukrainians in the second. Dirlewanger also had some other ostlegion troops subordinated to his attack group (Angriffsgruppe) - battalion "Bergmann" , I/111 Azeri battalion, and two battalions from the first eastmuslim regiment. Many authors often can't distinguish between those troops and Dirlewanger's Sonderkommando.

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Post by Askold » 13 Aug 2007 17:48

With regards of Kalmyks, de facto there probably weren't any, but de jure, Kalmyk delegation was the ONLY delegation to accept the Vlasov's KONR manifesto and join in with the Russians.

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Post by clement » 14 Aug 2007 13:37

I agree ,no Kalmycks and no RONA soldiers in Warsaw ,maybe confusion between ROA and RONA. Another point, as far as I know Olaf ,no Armenians in the 118 th Schutzmannschaft battalion

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Post by clement » 14 Aug 2007 15:08

OOOPS ,twist my tongue ,I mean no ROA from Vlassov in Warsaw ,sorry for the confusion I did myself .
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Re: Chechens in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by Herr Bubikopf » 24 Jul 2009 16:39

2. Venik: “Radio Liberty” Chechen Program Has SS Sonderkommando Roots

“SS Sonderkommando "Liberty" is Back in Business

American Radio "Liberty" an anti-Russian propaganda tool created by the CIA half-a-century ago in Munich and originally known as the Radio "Liberation" decided to relive the fascist years of its dark history.

PHILADELPHIA, Feb. 6, 2001 - A year ago, Roberto Mori, a member of the board of trustees overseeing the U.S. foreign broadcast efforts, proposed to create a Chechen Radio "Liberty" with a simple purpose - "to infuriate the Kremlin." Evidently, the CIA propaganda masters no longer bother to hide the anti-social nature of the Radio "Liberty" behind a presentable front of a "humanitarian mission."

During the February 2 press-conference in Riga, Latvia, dedicated to the 50th anniversary of the Radio "Liberty", the president of this organization, Thomas Dine, announced the creation of a new department within the Radio "Liberty," which will be broadcasting in Chechen as well as in several other languages of the Caucasus.

Exactly 50 years ago, the CIA established Radio "Liberation", later renamed into Radio "Liberty", in Munich, Germany. One of the "Liberty s" departments was broadcasting in Chechen and was almost entirely staffed by the former members of the SS Sonderkommando.

In 1942, the SS Sonderkommando was founded by SS-Oberfuhrer Oskar Dirlewanger former member of the Freikorps, the French Foreign Legion, the Condor Legion and a convicted rapist to conduct anti-partisan operations on the Eastern front. The SS Sonderkommando, which was granted Divisional status in the last months of the war, was responsible for crushing the Polish uprising in Warsaw and numerous other war crimes.

Most of the SS Sonderkommando members were captured by the Russian army and executed. The SS-Oberfuhrer Dirlewanger and some top commanders of his division are believed to have escaped to the West Germany. Among them were several Chechen nationals, who joined the SS during Wehrmacht s drive toward the rich oil fields of Grozny.

After the war, a number of the former SS Sonderkommando members were employed by the CIA to staff the newly-established department of the Radio "Liberation" broadcasting in Chechen. Needles to say, very few, if any, Chechens heard these broadcasts. Just as today, the primary goal of the Radio "Liberation s" broadcasts in Chechen language half-a-century ago was to infuriate the Russian government, as well as to brainwash ignorant Western audiences.

Clearly, with Chechen warlords and other criminals running from Russia, Radio "Liberty" discovered a fresh and plentiful source of Chechen-speaking sellouts to fill the new job positions generously financed by unsuspecting American taxpayers, who will be pleased to know, that Shamil Basayev s Sonderkommandos were not forgotten by the U.S. government.”
http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins20 ... 1-2-1.html

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Re: Chechens in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

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Post by Larry D. » 24 Jul 2009 19:21

I agree, Semenov. That web site is a propaganda mill for some group or individual's political agenda. Credibility: -0-.

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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by Mikedc » 20 Aug 2009 00:37

August Barchke - volksdeutsche from USSR (former Kdr. der OD im Klichevsk gebeit) and coy CO Ivan Melnitchenko

Does somebody has the rank from these two men???



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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by Herr Bubikopf » 20 Aug 2009 08:18

Hauptscharführer August Barchke (between June-August 1942).
Hauptscharführer Iwan (Ivan) Dmitrievich Melnitchenko (between June-August 1942) - killed in Belorussia after the war.
Three others:
Nicolai Afanasievich Beli (1920-1942); Scharführer->Hauptscharführer.
Zugführer->Sturmführer->Sturmbannführer (1944) Rostislav Aleksandrovich Muraviov(Murawjew)(15.09.1918-tried in Russia in 1971); "Bataillon Murawjew" -> Ost-Bataillon 602 "Dnjepr" (05.10.1942) -> Freiwillige-Einsatz-Bataillon «Murawjew» (12.09.1944) ->(30.Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (russische Nr. 2)).
Iwan (Ivan) Tupiga (Tupika?) (1920-???) - sub-machine gunner in the Dirlewanger Sonderkommando; tried in 1960 in Russia.

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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by comanche » 09 Sep 2009 04:57

tree more names of rusians in the Dirlewanger Brigade


Afanasi Artemievich Ivanov

Alexander Ivanovich Silin,Fedosi Filipovich Grabovsky

source : Adamovich book "karateli"

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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by Herr Bubikopf » 09 Sep 2009 10:23

Hi comanch!
Do you/other forum members have any information about this person - Hauptscharführer "Paul" Tummel (ex-KZ inmate) from the Dirlewanger brigade?

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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by SonderDivision R » 21 Oct 2009 06:53

Seems like a few Russians and Ukrainians were in Dirlewangers unit even in higher ranks sgt's up. Even Volksdeutschers born in Russia. Why then were these men not incorporated into the Kaminski Brigade or better yet after Kaminski's execution they should have absorbed the Kaminski Brigade into Dirlewanger would have seemed more fitting? Just a thought.

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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by Herr Bubikopf » 12 Nov 2009 15:58

Does anyone know what was the fate of August Barchke? Did Barchke survive the war?

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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by Herr Bubikopf » 12 Nov 2010 11:46

Here is a post-war picture of Rostislav (Slava) Alexandrovich Muravyov shortly before his arrest in 1970.
http://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/1555451.html
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Re: Russians in the SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger

Post by Herr Bubikopf » 07 Sep 2013 12:18

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