Spaniards in Waffen-SS
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Re: No Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS?
Hello Marcus,
I had Sourd's book and Erik is correct. There wasn't any Spanish Freiwilligen Kompanie der SS 101 and 102 (although one author, Wayne H. Brown wrote in his article about Spanish SS volunteers that the Spanish Freiwilligen Kompanie der SS 101 and 102 exists).
It was actually Spanische Freiwilligen Kompanie 101 & 102 of the Wehrmacht, not the SS. They were formed from the nucleus of the Spanische Ersatz und Ausbildungsbataillon based at the Stockerau barracks in Austria.
Panzermahn
I had Sourd's book and Erik is correct. There wasn't any Spanish Freiwilligen Kompanie der SS 101 and 102 (although one author, Wayne H. Brown wrote in his article about Spanish SS volunteers that the Spanish Freiwilligen Kompanie der SS 101 and 102 exists).
It was actually Spanische Freiwilligen Kompanie 101 & 102 of the Wehrmacht, not the SS. They were formed from the nucleus of the Spanische Ersatz und Ausbildungsbataillon based at the Stockerau barracks in Austria.
Panzermahn
Re: No Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS?
I know that books support his opinion as he was involved in writing it The question is more about other sources that support or does not support him.
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Re: No Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS?
There are not many books written about Spanish volunteers in Waffen SS though there are numerous works (in Spanish) on the Blue Division. The ones I know of is
http://www.amazon.com/The-Spanish-SS-We ... d_sim_b_14
Perhaps if any readers had this work could share more about the Spanish Waffen-SS volunteers though according to the Amazon reviews is not really encouraging
http://www.amazon.com/The-Spanish-SS-We ... d_sim_b_14
Perhaps if any readers had this work could share more about the Spanish Waffen-SS volunteers though according to the Amazon reviews is not really encouraging
Re: No Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS?
Hello Marcus,Marcus Wendel wrote: The Spaniards in Waffen-SS were SS-Ustuf Rudi Bal and 3.Kp SS-Freiw.Rgt.70/”Wallonien” who fought in Pomerania, later some of them went to Italy with 29 SS and a few to Potsdam/Berlin.
Marcus
Accordingly to the book "Karstjaeger!" by Corbatti\Nava (Heimdal 2010) quite a few Spaniards went to the 24.SS too, in north-eastern Italy, between 1944 and 1945; you can find some of theirs names and some KIAs during march 1945 listed there. There are some accounts about them wearing WSS uniforms.
A list of the SSPF Bozen dated mid- may 1945 also exists, listing some Spaniards, with army ranks, as members of a "Marsch" unit, raised up from the last surrounding forces of the HSSPF Alpenland in Bozen, named "Pol.Btl. Bozen" (not to be confused with the SS-Pol.-Rgt. "Bozen"). It's not known which uniforms were worn by such group of men.
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Re: No Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS?
hello
some infos about Spanische Freiw.Kp. 101 and 102 (Heer)
Freiwilligen-Kompanie (spanisch) 101 Feldpostnummer 08273
from Frontnachweiser
January 1945 - both Kp. transfered to 357.InfDiv.
Feb 1st, 1945 (no SS!)
March 27th, 1945 - Span. 101 und 102 at 357.inf.Div. Pz.Korps "FHH" / 8.Armee
Uwe
some infos about Spanische Freiw.Kp. 101 and 102 (Heer)
Freiwilligen-Kompanie (spanisch) 101 Feldpostnummer 08273
from Frontnachweiser
January 1945 - both Kp. transfered to 357.InfDiv.
Feb 1st, 1945 (no SS!)
March 27th, 1945 - Span. 101 und 102 at 357.inf.Div. Pz.Korps "FHH" / 8.Armee
Uwe
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=223633
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My Bookproject: "Organisationsgeschichte der deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. Weltkrieg"
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Re: A Spanish in SS uniform?
Thanks Panzermahn,
Do you know how Spanish got to Dirlewanger brigade? From the Blue Division?
Could this be the same man? In this photo he carries the yoke and arrow badge in his overseas cap.
with best regards
Arto Source: AHF, topic Spanish Volunters 41-45, sent by WIM
Do you know how Spanish got to Dirlewanger brigade? From the Blue Division?
Could this be the same man? In this photo he carries the yoke and arrow badge in his overseas cap.
with best regards
Arto Source: AHF, topic Spanish Volunters 41-45, sent by WIM
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Re: A Spanish in SS uniform?
About Spaniards in Dirlewanger's unit:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=98053Semenov wrote:On April 14th 1944 in SS-Sonder Btl. Dirlewanger served 6 spaniards:
1. Rodrigues. He was transfered in unit by SS-Ersatzkomando "Prag"
2. Valencia.
3. Castellanos.
4. Ovidio Inglesios.
5. Lopez.
6. Rodriguez Garcia.
Source Jean-Pierre Sourd "True Believers". P. 54.
Re: A Spanish in SS uniform?
Panzermahn,Panzermahn wrote: Some Spanish volunteers were also found in Italian Waffen SS units such as Karstjäger as well but it seems Corbatti & Nava's book on Karstjaeger did not mentioned anything about them.Panzermahn
I've found few lines about them and quite a few names of Spanish SS soldiers and KIA in that book.
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Re: No Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS?
SS-Frw. Ustuf Rudolphe BAL wasn't a spanish !! He was a walloon officer who command the 3th company of SS-Regiment 70, who was made of spanish troops.
Here are the spaniards who serve in Division Wallonien :
W-Ustuf. Ignacio BAANANTE
W-StdObJu (later W-Ustuf.) Ricardo BOTET
W-Ostuf. Luis GARCIA VALDAJOS
W-Hscha. LAFUENTE
W-Oscha. Manuel VALADES
W-StdObJu Pedro ZABALA
W-Hscha. Abel ARDOOS
CABREJAS (or CABRERAS) ; VADILIO ; JUAN PINAR
These three were probably W-Uscha.
Here are the spaniards who serve in Division Wallonien :
W-Ustuf. Ignacio BAANANTE
W-StdObJu (later W-Ustuf.) Ricardo BOTET
W-Ostuf. Luis GARCIA VALDAJOS
W-Hscha. LAFUENTE
W-Oscha. Manuel VALADES
W-StdObJu Pedro ZABALA
W-Hscha. Abel ARDOOS
CABREJAS (or CABRERAS) ; VADILIO ; JUAN PINAR
These three were probably W-Uscha.
Re: Spaniards in Waffen-SS
Several threads dealing with Spaniards serving in the Waffen-SS have been merged into this one for easier reference.
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Re: Spaniards in Waffen-SS
Has anyone came across Ustuf. Oscar Pedros? I have him as serving with Karstjäger in March 1945.
Regards,
Klemen
Regards,
Klemen
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Re: No Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS?
Is there any info regarding Spanish soldiers with 3. Geb. Div. in Romania? Esp. from the Romanian sources?Marcus Wendel wrote:Some were attached to 3. Gebirgs-Division in the Carpathian Mountains and others remained at Stockerau.
Re: Spaniards in Waffen-SS
I´m finishing my reading on Miguel Ezquerra book, it´s really an amazing first person report of the last days on WWII.
I have no doubt to suggest.
Book Name - "Berlin, to life or death"
I have no doubt to suggest.
Book Name - "Berlin, to life or death"
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Re: Spaniards in Waffen-SS
For my part, I suggest to take Ezquerra's book with a grain of salt (or two).Gromaniac wrote:I´m finishing my reading on Miguel Ezquerra book, it´s really an amazing first person report of the last days on WWII.
I have no doubt to suggest.
Although what follows in not in reference to the man in that photo, who could indeed be a Spanish volunteer, the the yoke and arrows badge is not a definitive proof of nationality:Arto O wrote:Could this be the same man? In this photo he carries the yoke and arrow badge in his overseas cap.
http://www.military.be/web/en/index.htm
The thirteenth photo shows an SS Flemish volunteer carrying the yoke and arrows badge (maybe a present from a Spanish comrade).
Re: Spaniards in Waffen-SS
Ironmachine wrote:For my part, I suggest to take Ezquerra's book with a grain of salt (or two).Gromaniac wrote:I´m finishing my reading on Miguel Ezquerra book, it´s really an amazing first person report of the last days on WWII.
I have no doubt to suggest.
Although what follows in not in reference to the man in that photo, who could indeed be a Spanish volunteer, the the yoke and arrows badge is not a definitive proof of nationality:Arto O wrote:Could this be the same man? In this photo he carries the yoke and arrow badge in his overseas cap.
http://www.military.be/web/en/index.htm
The thirteenth photo shows an SS Flemish volunteer carrying the yoke and arrows badge (maybe a present from a Spanish comrade).
You´re right, but we got to understand that was written with the end of war too fresh, and, "mate" what a day´s that he lived in Germany!