Léon Degrelle
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Degrelle who had a great sens of provocation married his daughter in 1962 in Spain
wearing the parade uniform of the spanish phalange with collar badges of SS Standartenführer.
pic from "Degrelle m'a dit" by Duchesse de Valence
wearing the parade uniform of the spanish phalange with collar badges of SS Standartenführer.
pic from "Degrelle m'a dit" by Duchesse de Valence
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Degrelle in spanish phalange uniform with his german war awards
(Duchesse de Valence Degrelle m'a dit)
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´Sir: The flag behind degrelle is one of lot of 4 Company flags "Wallonie Division" with Burgundian cross in red over white fond. The flags are exposed in the Degrelle home in Málaga, Spain, and Leon Degrelle told me a interesant hystory about the recovery of flags at WWII end.Maxime_Penen wrote:AHA! Thanks alot... Btw, is that the older Burgundian flag behind his back?
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just found this one of Degrelle, picture taken on 01.01.1945/promotion to SS-Obersturmbannführer
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Ahoj!
In a book on Western volunteers in the Waffen-SS, the Wallonien formation was described as having the singular distinction of being:
- a non mountain unit
- yet wearing the Edelweiss,
and
- in the Wehrmacht, not SS pattern
Borys
In a book on Western volunteers in the Waffen-SS, the Wallonien formation was described as having the singular distinction of being:
- a non mountain unit
- yet wearing the Edelweiss,
and
- in the Wehrmacht, not SS pattern
Borys
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They were also the only SS unit to have padres, which Degrelle asked Hitler for this special permission.Borys wrote:Ahoj!
In a book on Western volunteers in the Waffen SS, the Wallonien formation was described as having the singular distinction of being:
- a non mountain unit
- yet wearing the Edelweiss,
and
- in the Wehrmacht, not SS pattern
Borys
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Hello, British Sapper
I have red your response about padres in Wallonie - if I understand what you mean by padres - but other divisions had padre :
Division Charlemagne had three of them : Mgr. Mayol de Lupé, abbé Lara and abbé Verney.
Division Galicie which was catholic (the first one),
and imams for muslim soldiers.
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M17
I have red your response about padres in Wallonie - if I understand what you mean by padres - but other divisions had padre :
Division Charlemagne had three of them : Mgr. Mayol de Lupé, abbé Lara and abbé Verney.
Division Galicie which was catholic (the first one),
and imams for muslim soldiers.
Regards.
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Do you mean "padres" as in chaplains? Or parades?
Yes many of the SS units comprised of foreigners had parades and public reviews.
On April 1, 1944, the SS staged a parade through Charleroi and Brussels for the Degelle's unit, the SS-Freiwilligen-Sturmbrigade Wallonien, which had just been rebuilt at Wildfleken.
Elements of the LSSAH and Hitlerjugend divisions both watched and participated in the event; in fact the Walloon SS had to borrow LSSAH vehicles for the spectacle.
During the event, Degrelle proudly proclaimed "We were a battalion and we became a brigade. Tomorrow we will be a division!!!"
Degrelle was in many respects the poster-child for the Waffen-SS volunteer movement, and as such was used a propaganda tool by Himmler to illustrate the supposed "pan-European" nature of the fight against Communism. The purpose of the parade was also to intimidate the local Belgian population that the Germans, and specifically the SS, still were in charge. Most of the cheering crown photographed by the SS war correspondents were relatives of the Walloon SS.
As for chaplains, yes, some SS foreign units had them (and imams, in the case of the 13th SS) It was a cynical means for the SS to get foreigners to join the units and did not mean that the SS broadly tolerant (or even moderately) of religious freedom.
Yes many of the SS units comprised of foreigners had parades and public reviews.
On April 1, 1944, the SS staged a parade through Charleroi and Brussels for the Degelle's unit, the SS-Freiwilligen-Sturmbrigade Wallonien, which had just been rebuilt at Wildfleken.
Elements of the LSSAH and Hitlerjugend divisions both watched and participated in the event; in fact the Walloon SS had to borrow LSSAH vehicles for the spectacle.
During the event, Degrelle proudly proclaimed "We were a battalion and we became a brigade. Tomorrow we will be a division!!!"
Degrelle was in many respects the poster-child for the Waffen-SS volunteer movement, and as such was used a propaganda tool by Himmler to illustrate the supposed "pan-European" nature of the fight against Communism. The purpose of the parade was also to intimidate the local Belgian population that the Germans, and specifically the SS, still were in charge. Most of the cheering crown photographed by the SS war correspondents were relatives of the Walloon SS.
As for chaplains, yes, some SS foreign units had them (and imams, in the case of the 13th SS) It was a cynical means for the SS to get foreigners to join the units and did not mean that the SS broadly tolerant (or even moderately) of religious freedom.
It's basically the same style badge. The Wallonische Infanterie Bataillon Nr. 373 (precursor to the 5th SS Sturmbrigade) was briefly attached to the 5th Mountain Division in the spring of 1942, which is why you see photos of Degrelle and other Belgian SS wearing the eidelweiss.Sorry if I´m beeing ignorant here, but apart from beeing in SS, he also wears the edelweiss of the mountain troops
If by "great sense of provocation" you mean that Degrelle was an unrepentant, racist, anti-Semetic, fascist and pro-Nazi, then yes, that is correct.Degrelle who had a great sens of provocation married his daughter in 1962 in Spain
wearing the parade uniform of the spanish phalange with collar badges of SS Standartenführer.
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I am not here to defend Degrelle but Degrelle had absolutely nothing to do with concentration camps, so calling him an anti-Semitic and a racist is making generalization, he wanted to fight against Bolchevism like the majority of the foreign volunteers.
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Well, in a czech book on german occupation of Prague I found a pic of a kind of official assembly in a town hall were Degrelle is sitting in front row of the auditory. Can anyone tell me when and why he was in Prague?
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A few links with his post-war views:Benoit Douville wrote:I am not here to defend Degrelle but Degrelle had absolutely nothing to do with concentration camps, so calling him an anti-Semitic and a racist is making generalization, he wanted to fight against Bolchevism like the majority of the foreign volunteers.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1#p1252251
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9#p1198879
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 89#p879989
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 33#p238933
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Hi Benoit -
I am not making a generalization; I am specifically referring to Degrelle's "open letter" Holocaust denial letter and the Violeta Friedman trial. See the links Marcus posted, specifically the Degrelle and the Zorro thread.I am not here to defend Degrelle but Degrelle had absolutely nothing to do with concentration camps, so calling him an anti-Semitic and a racist is making generalization
Back in the 1930's-40's it was known as "Judeo-Bolshevism."he wanted to fight against Bolchevism like the majority of the foreign volunteers.
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All right, point taken concerning Degrelle, I have read the link posted by Marcus but I still believe that the majoity of foreign volunteers wanted to fight against Bolchevism. I also still believe Degrelle was a great soldier winning the Ritterkreuz.
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Degrelle won the Knight's Cross because the SS wanted him to win it. It suited their purposes.I also still believe Degrelle was a great soldier winning the Ritterkreuz.
As for the "elite combat reputation" of the Walloon SS, as the German after action reports of the Aug 1942 seizure of Cheryakov indicate, that reputation was a very, very carefully stage-managed by the SS and the Reich Propaganda Ministry.
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The most strange thing in Degrelle's vision of world is the mixture of Christian and National-Socialist beliefs.