28. SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon. Nr.1)

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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by -Michael » 05 Aug 2008 08:57

SS-Obersturmführer Paul Suys was also a member of this division. But I don't know what his function was.

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Post by Mikedc » 23 Apr 2009 20:20

SS Untersturmführer comte Pierre de BACKER de RÉVILLE (KIA)


Can't find anything about this person. Who knows his DoB and his DoD???


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Post by Mikedc » 23 Apr 2009 21:26

SS Hauptsturmführer Henri THYSSEN (KIA)


I only have him as SS-Ustuf and probably he got promoted to SS-Ostuf but no indication that he was SS-Hstuf.


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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by narwa44 » 24 Apr 2009 07:32

Hello
Henri Thyssen was normally promoted (traditonal day on April 20th 1945), the very day of his death.
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Post by narwa44 » 24 Apr 2009 07:34

Hello,

With regard to SS Untersturmführer comte Pierre de BACKER de RÉVILLE (KIA)
Inmate of then Oflag of Prenzelau. Joined the 28. when the camp was liberated in April 1945.
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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by narwa44 » 24 Apr 2009 07:35

With regard to

SS-Obersturmführer Paul Suys was also a member of this division. But I don't know what his function was.

his was function was not determined but he was attached the the 28. as an officer "hors cadre".
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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by narwa44 » 24 Apr 2009 07:42

Hello,
With regard to

Kommandeur: 00.10.1944-28.01.1945 SS-Oberf.Nikolaus Heilmann

Kommandeur: 00.01.1945-00.04.1945 SS-Staf.Léon Dégrelle

This is incorrect as Heilmann was never promoted Kommandeur of the 28. (his function was Führer der Aufstellungsstabes, and nothing else. More, he even left his job to Franz Hellebaut.
Degrelle was appointed Kommandeur in September 1944.
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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by narwa44 » 24 Apr 2009 07:45

Hello
With regard to

IVd: 00.00.1945-00.00.1945 SS-?? Léon Stockmann
Stockman (one "n) was a catholic padre (chaplain) and held the rank of SS-Sturmbannführer.
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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by Mikedc » 30 Apr 2009 21:50

Hello Eddy,

Thanks for all this extra info, it was interesting to read.
Especially the fact that Pierre de Backer de Réville joined the 28. Waffen-Division in April 1945 and that after his imprisonment........
But I'm still hoping someone can tell me his DoB and DoD.


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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by Endzeit Jan » 06 Jun 2009 16:43

Hi
Pierre de Backer de Réville was Bttr.-Chef from 3.Bttr./Art.Reg.28

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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by -Michael » 08 Jun 2009 14:38

narwa44 wrote:Hello,

With regard to SS Untersturmführer comte Pierre de BACKER de RÉVILLE (KIA)
Inmate of then Oflag of Prenzelau. Joined the 28. when the camp was liberated in April 1945.
Yours,
Eddy De Bruyne


So he was immediately promoted to SS-Untersturmführer when he joined the Waffen-SS in April of 1945? I know that these former Belgian army officers looked for shelter in the ranks of the SS-Freiw.Gren.Div.Langemarck and Wallonien, but I didn't know some acctually joined the Waffen-SS.

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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by narwa44 » 11 Jun 2009 16:57

Hello,

Belgian officers (active and reserve) were accepted in the Waffen-SS with the rank they held in the Belgian army without any difficulity. Previously, this had been the case with Hellebaut, Lakaie, Tchekhoff (naturalized Belgian), Van Damme, Thys, Lippert, Calonne, and many others without attending any SS Academy. They were called "ohne Patent angelegt".
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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by -Michael » 11 Jun 2009 18:22

Very interesting, you don't know if there where also any Belgian army officers from Prenzlau who joined the SS-Freiw.Gren.Div.Langemarck?
But the SS-Personalakte of a participant of the 2. Lehrgang für germanische Offiziere also says 'ohne Patent angelegt' ...

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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by narwa44 » 12 Jun 2009 11:08

Hello

Probably an officer assigned to attend some complementary course (administration, special arms, etc...) or just to make him acquainted with the German armament, services, or specific duties.
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Re: 28.SS-Freiw.Gren.Div."Wallonien" (wallon.Nr.1)

Post by Endzeit Jan » 26 Jun 2009 16:08

Thanks for addition Eddy
Wehre has Informations of SS-Pz.Jg.Abt.28?
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