Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Re: Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Post by Marcus » 18 Sep 2009, 13:58

PhD about Italian Waffen SS,

Please give proper credit to the source of the images you post.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 18 Sep 2009, 13:58

PhD about Italian Waffen SS wrote:Here an Interesting picture Chetnik of Dinaric Division with 7ª SS-Gebirgsdivision "Prinz Eugen"
I'm not sure about chetnik's unit (you are probably refering to Dinarska divizija = Dinara's division), but as far as I could match it, photo was taken in summer 1943 (around May-June), in Montenegro, or Bosnia. SS-Stubaf. is Bernhard Dietsche. Somehow I doubt that chetnik is from Dinara's div.; this is actually the first time I hear someone mentioning this man's unit. His face has always looked familiar to me, but I could never put a name to it...

I believe photo was published in Kaltenegger's "Mountain Troops of the Waffen-SS", but I can't check right now.


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Re: Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Post by PhD about Italian Waffen SS » 18 Sep 2009, 15:01

Ivanwss wrote:
PhD about Italian Waffen SS wrote:Here an Interesting picture Chetnik of Dinaric Division with 7ª SS-Gebirgsdivision "Prinz Eugen"
I'm not sure about chetnik's unit (you are probably refering to Dinarska divizija = Dinara's division), but as far as I could match it, photo was taken in summer 1943 (around May-June), in Montenegro, or Bosnia. SS-Stubaf. is Bernhard Dietsche. Somehow I doubt that chetnik is from Dinara's div.; this is actually the first time I hear someone mentioning this man's unit. His face has always looked familiar to me, but I could never put a name to it...

I believe photo was published in Kaltenegger's "Mountain Troops of the Waffen-SS", but I can't check right now.

source: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthr ... 245&page=7

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Re: Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Post by PhD about Italian Waffen SS » 18 Sep 2009, 15:05

Ivanwss wrote:
PhD about Italian Waffen SS wrote:Here an Interesting picture Chetnik of Dinaric Division with 7ª SS-Gebirgsdivision "Prinz Eugen"
I'm not sure about chetnik's unit (you are probably refering to Dinarska divizija = Dinara's division), but as far as I could match it, photo was taken in summer 1943 (around May-June), in Montenegro, or Bosnia. SS-Stubaf. is Bernhard Dietsche. Somehow I doubt that chetnik is from Dinara's div.; this is actually the first time I hear someone mentioning this man's unit. His face has always looked familiar to me, but I could never put a name to it...

I believe photo was published in Kaltenegger's "Mountain Troops of the Waffen-SS", but I can't check right now.

I am not sure about the Dinarska divizija. The source is a forum. But I think he is a Chetnik with the Waffen SS.
In what sense familiar?
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Post by PhD about Italian Waffen SS » 18 Sep 2009, 15:06

Marcus Wendel wrote:PhD about Italian Waffen SS,

Please give proper credit to the source of the images you post.

/Marcus
Sorry!
source: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthr ... 245&page=7

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Re: Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 18 Sep 2009, 15:18

PhD about Italian Waffen SS wrote:I am not sure about the Dinarska divizija. The source is a forum. But I think he is a Chetnik with the Waffen SS.
In what sense familiar?
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...meaning - I think I've seen that face before. And, yes, he is a chetnik, no doubt, just not sure from which unit (chetniks also had brigades etc, like every other army)

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Post by PhD about Italian Waffen SS » 18 Sep 2009, 15:58

A German military officer converses with Kosta Pecanac (the pre-war president of the Chetniks) and Dazafer Deva (a collaborator from Kosovo) in Podvjevo. [Photograph #46716]
Date 20 October 1941(1941-10-20)
This file is in the public domain, because the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum website says it is public domain, courtesy of Muzej Revolucije Narodnosti Jugoslavije.
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Post by PhD about Italian Waffen SS » 18 Sep 2009, 16:03

PRO_GERMANY or AGAINST_GERMANy?

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 18 Sep 2009, 18:43

PhD about Italian Waffen SS wrote:PRO_GERMANY or AGAINST_GERMANy?
Although this photo is off-topic in this thread (no Germans with chetniks), it's interesting to mention that the woman on the left is a captured partisan; there can be also seen the wife & daughter of famous (some would rather say "infamous") chetnik commander Nikola Kalabic, who can be seen in the complete photo too (which was published in one of M. Samardzic's books, I think in "The truth about Kalabic").

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Re: Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Post by Peter H » 18 Sep 2009, 23:37

WW2CroatianNewsreel wrote:
Jan-Hendrik wrote:There was a Serbisches Freiwilligen-Korps that was finally transfered to the Waffen-SS, see these documents from the Org.Abt./Gen.Stab.d.H.:
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Jan-Hendrik


These documents are fallacies!!

First, where is the seal?

Such an important document should have a seal on the end of the "report" like this Waffen SS document:
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The documents are authentic.See Jan-Hendrik's source reference.

Lets move on.

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Post by T.K. » 19 Sep 2009, 13:08

Serbian Chetniks were at SS units side even in the OZAK, please check Di Giusto on this matter.

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Post by Rob - wssob2 » 19 Sep 2009, 15:23

The fact that Serbian Chetnik units collaborated with German forces (Heer, Polizei & SS) in Yugoslavia is not news.

Phd, if you're interested in Chetnik unit history, you should read Chetnik: The story of the Royal Yugoslav Army of the Homeland, 1941-1945 by Momcilo Dobrich. The book has a pro-Chetnik bias but nonetheless has some valuable information about unit structure and operations.

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Post by PhD about Italian Waffen SS » 22 Sep 2009, 15:09

Rob - wssob2 wrote:The fact that Serbian Chetnik units collaborated with German forces (Heer, Polizei & SS) in Yugoslavia is not news.

Phd, if you're interested in Chetnik unit history, you should read Chetnik: The story of the Royal Yugoslav Army of the Homeland, 1941-1945 by Momcilo Dobrich. The book has a pro-Chetnik bias but nonetheless has some valuable information about unit structure and operations.

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Re: Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Post by Serbian boy » 30 Sep 2009, 21:18

Ivanwss wrote:

As for the chetnik unit org., unfortunately the "best" researcher is M. Samardzic, but I don't think he ever did (or will) confirm open collaboration of DM's chetniks with Germans.



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M. Samardzic is a bad researcher, he is not a historian at all. :? But far as I know he did not denied that there were four agreements between Mihailovic's chetniks and germans in period november-december 1943.

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Re: Chetnik volunteers at Waffen SS side (info-pictures?)

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Post by xqtr » 09 Oct 2010, 01:40

Chetnik duke Stevan Damjanović Leko with Prinz Eugen SS soldiers (1944):
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Prinz Eugen soldiers with one Chetnik:
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Prinz Eugen and Chetniks:
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