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Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by Georges JEROME » 21 Mar 2015 17:29

Hello,

Landwacht Nederland was created on march 1943 as a territorial unit. A security regiment against inner and external ennemies. It became from october 1943 a Waffen-SS unit. LN was always under Befehlshaber der Waffen-SS
in november 1943 was created an auxiliary police force, Nederlandse Landwacht under Befehlshaber der Ordnungspolizei.

My question is : was ever Landstorm Nederland used as security force agains dutch resistance, guard of KL/jail or for any pure security matters with Pol. bat or Sicherheitspolizei on 1943 or 1944 ?

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by Prosper Vandenbroucke » 22 Mar 2015 00:48

Hi Georges,
No, I didn't think so and according to this website:
http://www.archieven.nl/nl/zoeken?mivas ... iview=inv2
they were used only for razzias in the Netherlands in the winter of 1944-1945.
The "Landstorm Nederland" was a territorial supply police unit, reased in march 1943 under the name of "Landwacht Nederland" and was renamed "Landstorm Nederland" after the constitution of the "Nederlandse Landwacht" in november of 1943.
Thus the "Landstorm Nederland" and the "Landwacht Nederland" is the same unit. Just the name was changed.
Very sorry for my poor english knowledge.
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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by Rob - wssob2 » 22 Mar 2015 05:33

The division's 60th SS Field Replacement Battalion was led by SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Alfons Brendel, a former commander of the Amersfoort concentration camp.

In response to a Resistance ambush on a German paratrooper patrol, Wachbatallion Nordwest troops (the division's AT company) detained the male population of the town of Putten on Oct 1-2, 1944.Five hundred fifty-nine men and boys were then sent to Neuengamme. Only 49 survived the war.

Some Kontroll Kommando troops, who provided security for Penal Camp Ommen (Arbeitslager Erika), may have been transferred into the division as well.

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by NicoH » 22 Mar 2015 14:44

To All


Rob wrote
The division's 60th SS Field Replacement Battalion was led by SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Alfons Brendel, a former commander of the Amersfoort concentration camp.

In response to a Resistance ambush on a German paratrooper patrol, Wachbatallion Nordwest troops (the division's AT company) detained the male population of the town of Putten on Oct 1-2, 1944.Five hundred fifty-nine men and boys were then sent to Neuengamme. Only 49 survived the war.

Some Kontroll Kommando troops, who provided security for Penal Camp Ommen (Arbeitslager Erika), may have been transferred into the division as well.
To point 1: Brendel was never Commander of the Amersfoort concentration camp. He was only Companychef of the Stabskompanie der Waffen-SS beim HSSPF Nordwest, before becoming CO of the SS-Schule Avegoor.
This Stabskompanie was based in Den Haag/The Hague, and was later indeed included in the SS-Wachbataillon Nordwest when this was established. The Wachbtl guarded the Amersfoor Camp on the outside.
to point 2: The Wachbtl only became part of the forming SS-Frw-Gren Brigade Landstorm Nederland after november 2 1944, thus at the time of the Putten episode it was NOT part of the Landstorm Nederland.

to point 3: Kontroll Kommando men usually went to either the dutch police or the Polizei Freiwilligen Bataillon Nederland..

For better understanding the following: in MArch 1943 the formation of an internal security force ,named the Landwacht Nederland was announced bij Dr Seyss-inquart. This force, was a Waffen-SS unit, from the start and it was later renamed Landstorm Nederland
In October/November 1943 a new Stad en Landwacht Nederland, an security force with auxillary police powers was formed. This was not a military organization, and service in this force was not seen as entering German service , by dutch postwar courts.

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by Georges JEROME » 22 Mar 2015 17:03

thanks you !

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by Rob - wssob2 » 22 Mar 2015 21:20

To point 1: Brendel was never Commander of the Amersfoort concentration camp. He was only Companychef of the Stabskompanie der Waffen-SS beim HSSPF Nordwest, before becoming CO of the SS-Schule Avegoor.

Thank you for the clarification.

"Companychef of the Stabskompanie der Waffen-SS beim HSSPF Nordwest" = Brendel was in charge of the Amersfoort concentration camp guards.

The Wachbtl guarded the Amersfoort Camp on the outside
And that somehow makes it OK then?

Further info on Brendel is available at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=95977

Further information on Brendel and Amersfoort is at http://erijswijk.blogspot.com/2012/01/d ... art-3.html

Information on how Brendl used Jewish slave labor at the Avegoor SS school is at
http://liberationroute.com/pays-bas/lie ... of-ellecom

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by Rob - wssob2 » 22 Mar 2015 21:33

Security operations undertaken by 34th SS Division, 1943-45:

• Nov 19, 1943: Apeldoorn, Hertogenbosch, The Hague & Vught

• September 11, 1944: Rotterdam, Apeldoorn

• Dec 44-Jan 1945: North Brabant

• Feb 26, 1945: Rhenen, Arnhem, Apeldoorn, Gelderland

Source: James Pontolillo, Murderous Elite:The Waffen-SS and its Complete Record of War Crimes p.243

Pontolillo covers the Putten raid on pp.125-6.

Further information on the Wachbattalions' Arnhem combat record before being incorporated into the 34th SS is at http://www.defendingarnhem.com/wachbattalion.htm

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by George Lepre » 23 Mar 2015 23:48

Rob -

Nico knows more about the Landstorm than anyone else here. If you ask him NICELY, I'm sure he can provide further information for this thread.

George

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by steve248 » 13 Mar 2020 18:28

These two pages come from an interrogation dated 26 Oct 1944 following capture of the named officer:
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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by NicoH » 14 Mar 2020 14:38

POW interrogation report of Johann Schuster, born 01.03.1901 in Seebarm.

He was at the time of his capture CO of 2.Coy/SSGren Rgt 1 Landstorm Nederland. He was captured near Sittard, after having seen action with the I.btl at the Albert Canal near Hasselt.
After he came to the Landstorm Nederland he first was CO of I.Platoon in 5.Kp, then CO of the Rgt StaffZug/Kp (4.44-8.44), then Platoon Co of I.Platoon 2./Lst ndl, and then Coy CO.
He surprisingly did not mention a III Btl in teh Regiment, of which he must have known.
Names mentioned are off course Kohlroser, Neudel, van der Pol, Rothengatter, Gebhardt, Maass, Brettschneider, Hesse, well known names in the Landstorm Nederland.
Should more pages be available for Landstorm Nederland Personell who were captured during 1944 /1945 please show these pages on the forum.

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by steve248 » 09 Sep 2020 09:47

Two more officers who might be of interest. They were held in the British Zone and subject to extradition requests from Holland:
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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by NicoH » 14 Sep 2020 12:06

Hi Steve248

The officer Arthur Barthel, born 25.10.1910 in Würzen was the Administrative Officer(verwaltungsführer IVa) of the SSfrw Gren Rgt 84 (under Standartenführer Lippert). The arson of the Hotel in Rhenen is well known.

The second man, Ustuf Fritz Walter is unknown to me in the 34 SSFrw Gren Div Lst Ndl. Should you have more on him, or his position in the 34 SSFrw gren Div Lst Ndl I would like to see it.

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by steve248 » 14 Sep 2020 12:40

Nico
I cannot help you with more details on SS-Ustuf Fritz Walter.
The file I copied is just documents like these.
Looking at John Moore's listing, the only suitable Waffen-SS candidate appears to be SS-Ustuf Friedrich Walter, born 16 June 1912, Oberschedl (cannot find this location, possibly Oberscheden), commissioned SS-Ustuf 9 Nov 1944; SS No. 496368; and in Jan 1945, IVa SS-U.Sch. Radolfzell.

Fritz Walter (born 6 Dec 1896, no location), was also commissioned SS-Ustuf on 9 Nov 1944; SS No. 129589; but I do not know anything about him.

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Re: Landwacht Nederland and Nederlandse Landwacht

Post by Georges JEROME » 14 Sep 2020 12:49

I found this info

Friedrich WALTER Ostuf. 367 448 b.HSSPF Nordwest 11.42
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