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Post by Starinov » 06 May 2002, 21:54

Hello You posted that in the thread about Polish SS:
Hello!
I have not encountered Poles in the SS, but there surely were other ways in collaborating. For instance, the infamous "Trawniki men", educated in Camp Trawniki (Lublin). Several Poles served in KZs, including Auchwitz.

The "Trawniki" men (one batallion), aside Polish police were there during the destruction of the Warzaw ghettos. Stroop mentions 4 officers and 263 men.

1500 Trawniki men followed the Wehrmacht during the withdrawal.

B.
From what i read about them, they were Ukrainians not Poles
Inb the same spirit many Ukrainians served as KZ guards. Never heard of poles doing that. The only exception applying there would be that there were Volksdeutche.....
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Post by Schmauser » 06 May 2002, 22:22

The only polish camp guard that I have encountered is SS Wachmann Bronislaw Hajda, who served at Treblinka. I can't remember where I got his name from, but i'm pretty sure I never just made him up.

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Post by Starinov » 06 May 2002, 22:38

Do you know where he was coming from? which region?
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Post by Schmauser » 06 May 2002, 22:43

ummm ... let me do some research ... which consists of me checking my links and i'll get back to you.

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Post by Schmauser » 06 May 2002, 22:48

Try this link ...

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/1998/November/520crm.htm

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Post by Starinov » 06 May 2002, 22:58

Thanks for the link
But it is not said in that document that the guy was Polish. He actively took part in percecutions in Poland but he may not be a Pole
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Post by Schmauser » 07 May 2002, 01:00

Starinov wrote:Thanks for the link
But it is not said in that document that the guy was Polish. He actively took part in percecutions in Poland but he may not be a Pole
Starinov, you may have missed this line in the document

"The order directs that Hajda be removed to Poland, his country of birth, or in the alternative, Germany, from which he immigrated to the United States."

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Post by Bjørn from Norway » 07 May 2002, 11:57

Hello!
The Ukrainians is another chapter. The men described were Polish, so say my sources (Neulen). When I get home, and if you want to, I can go deeply into the background of these men.

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Post by Starinov » 07 May 2002, 14:31

Schmauser wrote:
Starinov wrote:Thanks for the link
But it is not said in that document that the guy was Polish. He actively took part in percecutions in Poland but he may not be a Pole
Starinov, you may have missed this line in the document

"The order directs that Hajda be removed to Poland, his country of birth, or in the alternative, Germany, from which he immigrated to the United States."

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Sorry, I missed it. my mistake....
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Post by Davey Boy » 07 May 2002, 15:15

Starinov,

Hajda is a Polish name.

Btw, are you Polish?
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Post by Starinov » 07 May 2002, 16:11

Hetman

Hajda is maybe a polish name but some SS members also have polish-sounding names....

And you have Poles with german names living in Silesia or in Great Poland near Poznan....

So the name does not proove anything. Also, maybe the guy became a volksdeutche in 1939-40 so he lost his polish citizenship even if he was born in Poland. (I am not trying to defend him but triyng to verify who the guy is).

by the way, Hetman, yes I am...
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