Were there any multi-national foreign volunteer units in Europe?

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Were there any multi-national foreign volunteer units in Europe?

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Post by Hyus » 25 Aug 2020, 19:09

When I read about foreign volunteer units serving the Axis, they seem to have often been segregated based on nationality (for example, the Flemish Legion, the Kalmyk Cavalry Corps, the Georgian Legion, etc). I can understand the reasons for this (language, esprit de corps, etc.).

But I'm just curious if there were any foreign volunteer units with the European Axis that were multi-national in character? Sort of like the method of the French Foreign Legion, where volunteers from multiple countries/cultures have been thrown together in the same units.

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Post by encyclo-collaboration » 25 Aug 2020, 23:37

Of course not.

And even in Allies units you ll not find this kind of "spirit".


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Post by Sturmschwein » 26 Aug 2020, 02:35

Some foreign units had several nationalities in their ranks for example the North Caucasian Legion (Abkhazians, Circassians, Kabardians, Balkars, Karachais, Chechens, Ingushes etc...) or the Ost-Battalions. But there were indeed no "multy-national" units like you discribe.

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Post by Hyus » 26 Aug 2020, 10:33

encyclo-collaboration wrote:
25 Aug 2020, 23:37
Of course not.

And even in Allies units you ll not find this kind of "spirit".
Have you heard of the French Foreign Legion?

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Post by Hyus » 26 Aug 2020, 10:34

Sturmschwein wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 02:35
Some foreign units had several nationalities in their ranks for example the North Caucasian Legion (Abkhazians, Circassians, Kabardians, Balkars, Karachais, Chechens, Ingushes etc...) or the Ost-Battalions. But there were indeed no "multy-national" units like you discribe.
I see. Thanks.

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Post by Loïc » 26 Aug 2020, 14:26

The Volga-Tatars Legion in garrison in Le Puy included until Lituanian jews

the 8th Company 3rd Regiment of the Brandeburgers mixed French, Italians and Spaniards, the LVF had also Arabs Italians and Russians

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Post by Hyus » 26 Aug 2020, 14:30

Loïc wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 14:26
The Volga-Tatars Legion in garrison in Le Puy included until Lituanian jews
Lithuanian Jews? That's very surprising. I assume they were hiding their identities?
Loïc wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 14:26
the 8th Company 3rd Regiment of the Brandeburgers mixed French, Italians and Spaniards
That's interesting, thank you. What sort of actions did they participate in?

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Post by Loïc » 26 Aug 2020, 14:37

Mainly anti-partisan actions against the Maquis and Resistance in southern France from what I know

for the Lituanian jews, obviously!

the Spanish Division Azul had also Portuguese,

actually these IIIrd Reich foreign legions recruited people beyond their theoretical geographic area

there is a movie about the famous case of Korean soldiers found in a Ost-Bataillon in Normandy

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Post by John Hilly » 26 Aug 2020, 15:31

SS-Wiking had mixed nationals in 1941-42.
"Die Blechtrommel trommelt noch!"

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Post by Hyus » 26 Aug 2020, 15:46

John Hilly wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 15:31
SS-Wiking had mixed nationals in 1941-42.
What sort of nationalities were included?

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Post by Sturmschwein » 26 Aug 2020, 17:17

Hyus wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 15:46
John Hilly wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 15:31
SS-Wiking had mixed nationals in 1941-42.
What sort of nationalities were included?
Mostly germanic people like Norwegians, Dutch, Danish etc... but also some non-germanics like Estonians and Finns

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Post by Hyus » 26 Aug 2020, 17:41

Sturmschwein wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 17:17
Mostly germanic people like Norwegians, Dutch, Danish etc... but also some non-germanics like Estonians and Finns
So this unit was formed from the outset as a multi-national formation? Or had it started as a particular national unit and then expanded to include other volunteers?
John Hilly mentioned the unit had mixed nationals between 1941-1942. What happened after 1942? Was the unit disbanded or segregated?

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Post by encyclo-collaboration » 26 Aug 2020, 20:13

French Foreign Legion has nothing to compares .

strangers in Foreign legions don't serve as representatives of their respective countries, but as some kind of apatrid withth falses nationality / falses names.

It is totally different spirit than the Axis ethnic legions or even Internationals Brigades , etc

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Post by -Michael » 06 Sep 2020, 08:59

The SS-Division ‘Wiking’ and the III. SS-Panzer-Korps.
These units included, Spanish, Walloon, Swedish, Swiss, ... volunteers.

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Post by Hyus » 06 Sep 2020, 11:14

-Michael wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 08:59
The SS-Division ‘Wiking’ and the III. SS-Panzer-Korps.
These units included, Spanish, Walloon, Swedish, Swiss, ... volunteers.
Thanks. Wasn't the SS "Nordland" unit also multinational? This website claims that by the end of the war there were Danes, Hungarians, Dutch, Norwegians, Estonians, Finns, French, Romanians, Swedes, Swiss, and Brits within it or attached to it: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/11 ... n-nordland

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