Serbian Conscripts in the Waffen SS

[Enar Nielsen]

I have recently been doing research on Serbian (Banat) conscripts in the Waffen SS, and I was wondering if there were any Serbian conscripts not in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen. Any useful information is welcome!

[K.Kocjancic]

I have recently been doing research on Serbian (Banat) conscripts in the Warren SS, and I was wondering if there were any Serbian conscripts not in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen. Any useful information is welcome!

Well, regarding 7. SS-AuE-Btl as a separate unit, you can read it here: https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=566743

[Enar Nielsen]

I have recently been doing research on Serbian (Banat) conscripts in the Warren SS, and I was wondering if there were any Serbian conscripts not in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen. Any useful information is welcome!

Well, regarding 7. SS-AuE-Btl as a separate unit, you can read it here: https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=566743

Ok, thank you! I'll be reading that!

[DFrolov1992]

I have recently been doing research on Serbian (Banat) conscripts in the Warren SS, and I was wondering if there were any Serbian conscripts not in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen. Any useful information is welcome!

Well, regarding 7. SS-AuE-Btl as a separate unit, you can read it here: https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=566743

Ok, thank you! I'll be reading that!

Hi!

If we take into account the territorial boundaries of the German military-administrative regime established in occupied Serbia and the fact that its citizens were conscripted into the Waffen-SS, then in addition to the 7.SS-Division, serbian citizens were also recruited in 13.SS-Geb. Div from Novi- Pazar in 1943.

Best regards
Dmitrii

[FransN]

Does anybody know any names of company commanders (if possible with dates) of SS-Geb. Jg. Ausb. u. Ers. Btl. 7?
Frans

[Blanusa]

Hello,

@Enar Nielsen
There was a discussion earlier on AHF, with a very interesting document, however, I don't know if they were conscripts.
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=215069

@Frans
I know of Heinrich Heckmüller. He first served as Zugführer in 3./SS-Geb.Jg.Ausb.- u. Ers.Btl.7 from 1 December 1942 to 15 January 1943 and then as Führer of 2./SS-Geb.Jg.Ausb.- u. Ers.Btl.7 from 15 January to 4 June 1943.


Best regards
Blanusa

[FransN]

Tack så mycket (Thank you very much) Blanusa!
Please, what is your source of this useful information? Moore mentions that Heckmüller was in the battalion, but did not mention the exact company.
Should you have more names of company commander of this battalion, please let me/us know!
Best regards,
Frans

[Blanusa]

Hello Frans,

You are most welcome. The information is from his 200+ page SSO file.


Best regards
Blanusa

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi Enar,

What is the context here?

Is it that ethnic Serbs (and other minorities?) from the Banat found themselves conscripted despite not being ethnic Germans simply because they happened to live in the Banat, which the Nazis administered as an autonomous German area?

Cheers,

Sid.

[Bosnoljub]

Hi Enar,

What is the context here?

Is it that ethnic Serbs (and other minorities?) from the Banat found themselves conscripted despite not being ethnic Germans simply because they happened to live in the Banat, which the Nazis administered as an autonomous German area?

Cheers,

Sid.

I agree, what's the context?

My minimal, and when I say minimal I MEAN minimal (going through a Wikipedia page for 5 minutes), research indicates that the Prinz Eugen Division was Volksdeutsche and didn't at all conscript non-ethnic German residents of Serbian Banat, Romanian Banat, Hungary or NDH.

[Enar Nielsen]

Hi Enar,

What is the context here?

Is it that ethnic Serbs (and other minorities?) from the Banat found themselves conscripted despite not being ethnic Germans simply because they happened to live in the Banat, which the Nazis administered as an autonomous German area?

Cheers,

Sid.

Yes, that was the context I had imagined. I find foreign S.S. conscription interesting (Example: Lithuania) and was wondering how present it was for ethnic Serbs in the Banat

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi Enar,

I am still unclear.

You initially posted, "I have recently been doing research on Serbian (Banat) conscripts in the Warren SS, and I was wondering if there were any Serbian conscripts not in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen." The implication of this was that you were already aware that there were ethnic Serbian conscripts in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen. Is this the case?

On the other hand, "I was wondering how present it was for ethnic Serbs in the Banat" seems to be purely speculative.

Have you, at present, got any information that there were ethnic Serbs conscripted into the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen?

I find the enlistment of foreign nationalists into the Waffen-SS the most interesting aspect of the entire organization. The Waffen-SS was slow to start enlisting foreign nationals, except in Scandinavia, where enlistment was weak - about four men a day in Denmark and Norway. By contrast, the German Army was the first to enlist almost every other nationality as soldiers and only in early 1943 were they turned over to the Waffen-SS.

Cheers,

Sid.

[DFrolov1992]

I have recently been doing research on Serbian (Banat) conscripts in the Warren SS, and I was wondering if there were any Serbian conscripts not in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen. Any useful information is welcome!

Well, regarding 7. SS-AuE-Btl as a separate unit, you can read it here: https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=566743

Hello Klemen

First of all thanks for the article, but in the process of studying, the question arose about the origin of your statement on page 100 ("In the late 1944, the battalion started to receive soldiers from 13th and 21st SS divisions"). What are the objective reasons for the rotation of Albanians and Bosnians to this part (judging by the context, we are talking about volunteers, not German personnel) if from the fall of 1944 there was a process of reducing the presence of these categories of volunteers in the Waffen-SS, and the Albanian division itself was experiencing an acute shortage of personnel? Are there any German documentary sources, besides the interrogation reports, confirming the diversity of the ethnic composition of the battalion?

Best regards
Dmitrii

[Enar Nielsen]

Hi Enar,

What is the context here?

Is it that ethnic Serbs (and other minorities?) from the Banat found themselves conscripted despite not being ethnic Germans simply because they happened to live in the Banat, which the Nazis administered as an autonomous German area?

Cheers,

Sid.

I agree, what's the context?

My minimal, and when I say minimal I MEAN minimal (going through a Wikipedia page for 5 minutes), research indicates that the Prinz Eugen Division was Volksdeutsche and didn't at all conscript non-ethnic German residents of Serbian Banat, Romanian Banat, Hungary or NDH.

I believe you are right, I seem to have read "Formed in 1941 from both Germans and Volksdeutsche (ethnic German) volunteers and conscripts from the " as saying that it was made up of German and Volksdeutsche volunteers, and that the conscripts were ethnically Banat, Croatian, Hungarian and Romanian, instead of the reality of the Germans and Volksdeutsche being both volunteers and conscripts, from those regions.

[Hawkens]

I have recently been doing research on Serbian (Banat) conscripts in the Warren SS, and I was wondering if there were any Serbian conscripts not in the 7th Mountain Division Prinz Eugen. Any useful information is welcome!

Hello, i hope i'm not late.

Here is the picture of Serbian SS volunteer.
On the back of the picture text reads:"Memories from Dresden"