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Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by CNE503 » 12 Sep 2021 11:20

Hello,

Has anyone some sources dealing with this topic?
I'm especially looking for Romanian Volksdeutsche's reactions to the deployment of a German military mission in their country as of October 12th, 1940.

Thank you.
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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by GregSingh » 13 Sep 2021 11:32

No shortage of propaganda articles in local German newspapers.

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They also managed to appoint Kreisleiters for all 10 or so Kreise of Gau Banat. Although I think this Gau never existed officially as an NSDAP Gau? Hopes were running high...

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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by Hans1906 » 13 Sep 2021 14:47

Good afternoon CNE503,

"Banatdeutsche" and "Banater Schwaben" were the former designations with my grandparents.

Banater Schwaben https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banater_Schwaben

Die deutsche Minderheit in Rumänien (The German minority in Romania)
(*.pdf file) https://www.goethe.de/resources/files/p ... nien41.pdf

Personally, I am only familiar with the topic from hearsay, unfortunately.


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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by CNE503 » 13 Sep 2021 20:01

GregSingh wrote:
13 Sep 2021 11:32
No shortage of propaganda articles in local German newspapers
Hello,

Have you the reference picture for the first newspaper (from Timisoara, October 13th, 1940)?

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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by CNE503 » 13 Sep 2021 20:02

Hans1906 wrote:
13 Sep 2021 14:47
Good afternoon CNE503,

"Banatdeutsche" and "Banater Schwaben" were the former designations with my grandparents.

Banater Schwaben https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banater_Schwaben

Die deutsche Minderheit in Rumänien (The German minority in Romania)
(*.pdf file) https://www.goethe.de/resources/files/p ... nien41.pdf

Personally, I am only familiar with the topic from hearsay, unfortunately.


Hans
Hello Hans,

I just learnt that Johnny Weissmüller - Tarzan for the TV - was a Romanian Swabian.
Thank you for the sources!
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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by Hans1906 » 13 Sep 2021 20:32

"Banatdeutsche" were still considered refugees here in Germany in the 1950s, I know this from the records of my grandfather, who was the mayor of our community Bad Zwischenahn from 1953 to 1967.

Some newspaper clippings of the time are not relevant, purely superficial.

Landsmannschaft der Banater Schwaben e.V. https://www.banater-schwaben.org/start
(Just ask there, they will answer you.)

A very complex issue, comparable to the Sudetendeutschen, etc.
I myself am far too young, what I remember, I picked up in earlier decades, nothing more, unfortunately.

The German-language Internet is more than complex on these topics, unfortunately only little in English, that is in the nature of things...
I just learnt that Johnny Weissmüller - Tarzan for the TV - was a Romanian Swabian.
Why not.

Johnny Weissmuller: Funny chimpanzee "Cheetah" steels wife's wig in 1971 German TV show


Very famous clip, people here talk about this to this very day... :thumbsup:

It is nice, that there is some humor in many heavy topics, unfortunately that is far too rare.


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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by GregSingh » 14 Sep 2021 01:14

All headlines are from Banater Deutsche Zeitung.
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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by Hans1906 » 29 Sep 2021 15:19

Two short videos about "Banatdeutsche" talking in their typical german dialect:

Deutsche im Banat Freidorf 1997


Banat: Deutsche im Banat - Wojteg


The suffering and misery, that these people had to go through after 1945, that is not tangible for me personally.
I remember such stories of people from the Sudetenland, but all that is history, a German history, and our past.


Hans

There are hundreds of similar videos, the tragedy of these people is difficult to grasp, and unfortunately no longer an issue today. Official support there is probably, the details are unfortunately not known to me ?
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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by mihaiS » 07 Dec 2021 12:02

CNE503 wrote:
12 Sep 2021 11:20
Has anyone some sources dealing with this topic?
This book, even if it mainly deals with the Waffen-SS. It has quite a few chapters dedicated to the Volksgruppe and its history, but it's only available in German and Romanian.
CNE503 wrote:
12 Sep 2021 11:20
Romanian Volksdeutsche's reactions to the deployment of a German military mission in their country as of October 12th, 1940.
The arrival of the Wehrmacht Mission happened almost simultaneously (in the timeframe of a month) with the formation of the NSDAP of the German Ethnic Group in Romania, and its official recognition as a legal entity by Antonescu. As such, you can imagine that the Romanian Volksdeutsche were quite enthusiastic about both events, but I'd argue that the latter was far more important, given the issues that they faced during the Interwar period.
I can provide photos of the few pages that deal with the German Mission, if you understand Romanian, or if you are willing to have the text translated.

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Re: Romanian Volksdeutsche, 1940-1941

Post by CNE503 » 07 Jan 2022 21:00

Hello mihaiS!

Thank you, sure it would be great to have these pages!

Best regards from France,

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