non germans in LSSAH division 1939-1945

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#31

Post by PK » 02 Aug 2005, 09:57

eesti leegion wrote:also i know,that several estoniaś served in Lah.
Interesting, never heard of this - do you know how many estonians that served in LAH, and do you perhaps have the names of them?

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#32

Post by -Michael » 28 Aug 2005, 15:52

SS-Obersturmführer Willy Bermans (Bergmans?) from Steenokkerzeel (Flanders) was a Kompaniechef in the LAH, does somebody have more information about him?

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#33

Post by Harro » 28 Aug 2005, 16:02

What is your source that he was? He isn't listed by Lehmann/Tiemann and his name does not appear in the Führerliste. This doesn't mean it's incorrect because the Führerliste in incomplete, but it does raise some doubt.

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#34

Post by -Michael » 28 Aug 2005, 16:06

Timo Worst wrote:What is your source that he was? He isn't listed by Lehmann/Tiemann and his name does not appear in the Führerliste. This doesn't mean it's incorrect because the Führerliste in incomplete, but it does raise some doubt.
He appeared in "Vlaanderen in Uniform" part 7. He doesn't appear in the lists of Flemish vollunteers studied at the SS-Junkerschule Tölz in "Vlaanderen in Uniform" part 6.

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#35

Post by Harro » 28 Aug 2005, 16:08

And this book gives him as a Kompanieführer in the LAH?

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Post by -Michael » 28 Aug 2005, 16:12

Timo Worst wrote:And this book gives him as a Kompanieführer in the LAH?
Yes, maybe the author of this part made a mistake?

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#37

Post by -Michael » 28 Aug 2005, 16:14

He is listed in a list of a diary of a Walter Jelking, I don't think it's very reliable.

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#38

Post by K.Kocjancic » 07 Sep 2005, 18:28

So far I have 7 members of LSSAH from Slovenia (German, Volksdeutscher, Slovene).

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#39

Post by -Michael » 31 Jul 2006, 14:25

I’ve more information, SS-Untersturmführer Willy Bertmanns (°22.01.1914) served the 1. SS-Panzer-Division in February 1945. (It’s Bertmanns in stead of Bermans).
Has somebody more information?

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#40

Post by Polynike » 31 Jul 2006, 15:21

panzer meyer mentions a cossack in his book grenadiers, i think michel was the name used, if i rememeber correctly. the time reference was the retaking of kharkov in 1943

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#41

Post by Harro » 31 Jul 2006, 17:18

Yes, but he was a Hiwi. There were hundereds of Hiwis in the division but they were no SS members and no soldiers.

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Post by -Michael » 23 Sep 2006, 17:38

Stormman wrote:I’ve more information, SS-Untersturmführer Willy Bertmanns (°22.01.1914) served the 1. SS-Panzer-Division in February 1945. (It’s Bertmanns in stead of Bermans).
Has somebody more information?
Does nobody have anything on SS-Untersturmführer Willy Bertmanns?

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#43

Post by EER » 27 Sep 2006, 01:51

Another Englishman of the LSSAH, Thomas Haller Cooper. I retrieved the following information from the long out-of-print book The Meaning of Treason (1947) by Rebecca West. Not exactly a beautifully written work and a little heavy on the anti-German rants, but interesting as a very early examination of the British Free Corps, John Amery and William Joyce. Cooper, so it says, was half-German, half-British, raised in England.

When he was nineteen his mother took him back to Germany, as a woman taking her child to present him at the temple, herself returning to London. The year was 1939. A short time after the war broke out he joined the Adolf Hitler Division of the Waffen SS, and served in Poland, and then in Russia, where he was wounded. When he was convalescent he was recalled to do traitor's work, visiting the English prisoner-of-war camps and talking with the prisoners and giving them corrupting literature, and finally was made an N.C.O. in charge of the British Free Corps. At first he enjoyed the work, and many of the members of the B.F.C. liked him. There was probably a real geniality, an honest tenderness, between them. Cooper had come from the Eastern Front, the other had come from years of hunger and confinement; they found themselves well-fed, and could exchange tales of woe in what was their native language, his father's tongue, in a good villa that was more comfortable than was cosy, among the woods, the sweet aromatic German woods.

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#44

Post by Mikedc » 14 Oct 2006, 21:40

Ostuf Charlemagne wrote:
It was also a rumanian officer , Obersturmfuehrer Nikolai.
Was this his familyname or his christian name???
When someone has some more info about this officer, hope you want to share it.

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#45

Post by -Michael » 02 Mar 2007, 20:11

I found out that SS-Obersturmführer Simon de Groot from Antwerp (Flanders) served within the 1. SS-Panzer-Division «Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler», has somebody some more information about him?
And SS-Untersturmführer Ludwig Ooms served within the 11. Kompanie/SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 1 in December 1944 (Ardennes Offensive?), has somebody some more information about him too?


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