non germans in LSSAH division 1939-1945

[-Michael]

SS-. Peter Philips SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 1 / 1.SS-Pz.Div. 00.0000 - 00.0000

What's your source regarding Philips?

His name and FpNr. is mentioned on the R.u.S.-documents of his brother in 1944. Do you maybe have more information about this man?

[Harro]

I will check my files. Which Feldpostnummer is given?

[-Michael]

I will check my files. Which Feldpostnummer is given?

Document of the SS-Pflegestelle 153 dated 20.01.1944:

Nachstehend aufgeführte Blutsverwandte von mir bzw. meiner zukünftigen Ehefrau sind SS-Angehörige / mit SS-Angehörige verlobt bzw. verheiratet:
1.) P h i l i p s Peter (Bruder) z.Zt. L SS A.H. F.P.N. 01893 Sip.Nr. 311.196

[PhD about Italian Waffen SS]

Some Parmesans (Parma people.. north Italy ) they have served as mechanician of captured Italian vehicles after 8 september 1943. The LSSAH it fight in Parma just the 8 and 9 September of 1943 . (My personal info.)

From Wikipedia ..

The Leibstandarte was given the task of guarding several vital road and rail junctions in the area of Trento-Verona. After several weeks operating in this area, the division was moved to the Parma-Reggio area. During this period, the Leibstandarte was involved in several skirmishes with partisans. With the Italian collapse of 8 September 1943, the division was ordered to begin disarming nearby Italian units. This went smoothly, with the exception of a brief skirmish with Italian troops stationed in Parma on 9 September.

Below the LSSAH division at Parma
Private collestion

I can confirm the presence of an Italian volunteer in the LSSAH. I interviewed his relatives and he enlisted when LSSAH was in Italy and then fought in Russia and Ardenne. I'll publish info in my Phd.

[PhD about Italian Waffen SS]

Some Parmesans (Parma people.. north Italy ) they have served as mechanician of captured Italian vehicles after 8 september 1943. The LSSAH it fight in Parma just the 8 and 9 September of 1943 . (My personal info.)

From Wikipedia ..

The Leibstandarte was given the task of guarding several vital road and rail junctions in the area of Trento-Verona. After several weeks operating in this area, the division was moved to the Parma-Reggio area. During this period, the Leibstandarte was involved in several skirmishes with partisans. With the Italian collapse of 8 September 1943, the division was ordered to begin disarming nearby Italian units. This went smoothly, with the exception of a brief skirmish with Italian troops stationed in Parma on 9 September.

Below the LSSAH division at Parma
Private collestion

Hi, are you sure it's Parma. I found the picture as Piacenza.
Thanks

[BKG]

I am revamping this interesting thread with a question: I've recently read an interesting book about the life of an italian who served first in the black shirts and fought in Greece and Albania and after Sept 8th, 1943 joined LSSAH.
The book was released some months ago and contains also few pics. It was not written first hand, it was more like the memories of the man collected by the authour who interviewed him. Both are living and well.
Now let's come to my question. In the chapter where he describes how he joined LSSAH he says that after the shameful SEpt 8th he was at his hometown (Milan) with a licence after he was wounded in Albania and he crossed a LSSAH truck, they stopped he explained to them his will to keep fighting with his allies and they brought him to their HQ. In a day he was wearing an uniform and was equipped and armed. In few days he got his soldbuch. Then the war memories start, but no mention of any training or other, according to what he writes he was directly sent with the unit to the line.
Is that possible? I'm not sceptical but it was 1943 so I was expecting that any volunteer should have gone under some training, especially if foreigner?
Thanks

[Harro]

What does the book tell us about his functions and actions after his joined the LSSAH? It seems to me they took him in as a HiWi (Hilfsfreiwillige), which happened all the time. But they performed non-combar tasks.

[Harro]

I will check my files. Which Feldpostnummer is given?

Document of the SS-Pflegestelle 153 dated 20.01.1944:

Nachstehend aufgeführte Blutsverwandte von mir bzw. meiner zukünftigen Ehefrau sind SS-Angehörige / mit SS-Angehörige verlobt bzw. verheiratet:
1.) P h i l i p s Peter (Bruder) z.Zt. L SS A.H. F.P.N. 01893 Sip.Nr. 311.196

A little late with my reply, but I have no info about a Peter Philips with the AA LAH. The Feldpostnummer is from the Stabskompanie.

[BKG]

What does the book tell us about his functions and actions after his joined the LSSAH? It seems to me they took him in as a HiWi (Hilfsfreiwillige), which happened all the time. But they performed non-combar tasks.

the book says he was a member of the 13th coy of the SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 1 of the LSSAH. According to his memories he was not a HiWi but a full member and took part of the antipartisan actions in northern Italy, Istrien and Croatia, then moved to russian front,Belgium,Caen until the end of the war in Austria. he mentions he received a EK II, a PKA and ended the war as a Sturmmann.

[Rob - wssob2]

just curious - what is the name of the book?

[BKG]

Hi, the book title is "Einer von Millionen" but I believe it was released in italian only.

[bookreport666]

here are pictures of italian volunteer s in the LSSAH, the first picture is an italian veteran of a german SS unit, he was transfered into the italian SS in 1944 and as you see he's using his old german uniform

[smetanin albert]

from SSO Bertmans

[-Michael]

from SSO Bertmans

Hi Albert,
Do you have more information about Bertmans?

Thanks,
Michaël

[smetanin albert]

Hello Michaël,

This information is from SSO Rolle A3343 064
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... 4#p2137204