Polish soldiers in the Wehrmacht/Waffen-SS?

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Able
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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Able » 25 Jan 2012 18:54

Domen121 wrote:
how a Pole in the Red Army
Polish Army in the East was not part of the Red Army.
How would you put it then please Domen?

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by history1 » 31 Jan 2012 09:15

Able wrote:I think the man in the picture was in nazi service because it was a good life if you had the stomach for it.
The money was good, the food was good, the drink was good, the camaraderie was good, there were plenty of Wehrmacht brothels where he could rape sex slaves, all the pillaging he wanted, and because he enjoyed racialist crimes.
He could enjoy all the benefits the nazi system bequeathed on its supporters.
[...]
Can you provide any facts which one can see in the image and support your claim? I guess not.
Your statement seems to be a spawn of morbid conception.
Jm2c

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by history1 » 31 Jan 2012 09:37

Able wrote:[...]

The famous Iwojima flag raising shots is a big propaganda scam.
There's been a flag up their for several hours before that posed one.

I've no doubt there is photographic evidence to "prove" started the War at Gleiwitz.

You aren't one of the people who believe that Photoshop is a modern invention are you?
It isn't.
Photoshops, or should that be photo shops, altered photographs long before computers were invented.

If you look at many Allied photographs, you see shots of showroom fresh jeeps with lovely white stars on them.
Dead easy.
Print of photo of some countryside.
Take a picture of a clean jeep with a shiny star on it from a suitable angle.
Cut out the picture of the jeep.
Paste it on the background.
Tart up the star so it's lovely and shiny.
Then take a photograph of the jeep pasted on the background.
[...]
The thread title is "Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht" not "PS skills for advanced beginners".

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by history1 » 31 Jan 2012 09:48

Domen121 wrote:[...]
This is not original title of this picture, but a statement posted by user Askold of this forum.
[...]
Correct, and it seems to me that this user like his inputs without any proofs.

Example:
Askold´s claim: "A letter from Polish volunteer in the 51-st Police batallion."
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1346536
But the letter reads "Kri[e]gsgefangenenpost = POW - Mail". Pointed at this there´s no reaction of Askold.

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by history1 » 31 Jan 2012 10:02

Able wrote:[...]
You might also wish to ask yourself how he found a skilful photogropher, with it appears supplementary lighting.
[...]
Skilful photographer? I guess a such one had not cut off the hands of the person while photographing Instead he had cut off the sky.
Supplementary lighting? There´s just the hard shadow of the sun.

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Able » 31 Jan 2012 12:28

[/quote]
Can you provide any facts which one can see in the image and support your claim? I guess not.
Your statement seems to be a spawn of morbid conception.
Jm2c[/quote]

What a beautiful turn of phrase History!.

Please would you explain to me why you ask a questions, and then answer them yourself?

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Able » 31 Jan 2012 12:50

history1 wrote:
Skilful photographer? I guess a such one had not cut off the hands of the person while photographing Instead he had cut off the sky.
Supplementary lighting? There´s just the hard shadow of the sun.[/quote]

There's none so blind as them as won't see?

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by tom_deba » 02 Feb 2012 18:05

Let's go back to the main topic.

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Marcus » 02 Feb 2012 18:28

Agreed, let's get back on topic.

/Marcus

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Re: Polish Hiwi in German service?

Post by Askold » 02 Feb 2012 22:04

Piotr Mikołajski wrote:
Askold wrote:Polish Hiwi in German service
Why do you think that this soldier is in German service?

- Note the German beltbuckle.

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Marcus » 03 Feb 2012 17:23

A long discussion about one specific photo was split off into a new thread entitled "Polish Hiwi in German service?".

/Marcus

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Marcus » 03 Feb 2012 19:57

A post dealing specifically with the Poles conscripted into the Wehrmacht was split off into a new thread.

/Marcus

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Marcus » 03 Feb 2012 20:52

A post by Able criticizing a moderating decision was removed. If you disapprove of how the forum is run feel free to exercise your right not to post here.

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Marcus » 03 Feb 2012 21:23

A further post by Able was removed. Get back on topic.

/Marcus

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Re: Polish Volunteers In The Wehrmacht

Post by Able » 03 Feb 2012 21:42

Thinking about it, I never notice even a passing odour of intellectual discussion here.
Good luck folks.

Over and out.

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