SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by A_Pisarenko » 23 Jan 2018 19:12

few images from my collection
Rottenführer 13.Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS „Handschar“
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Arto O » 31 Jan 2018 18:35

Hi,
what happened? I sent a picture about 12 hours ago, mentioned the source of it and Waleed Y Maheed sent a comment. And now it just dissapeared.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 31 Jan 2018 19:01

Dear Arto,

It was another reenactment photo, which doesn't belong to this topic and forum section. Please be more careful in the future about your photo sources. (Note: Pinterest is not a valid source, it's just an online board where anyone can post whatever they like and I suggest avoiding it.)

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 19 Sep 2018 02:04

Some of the newest finds to come out of the BiH History Museum. The bottom picture is of some interest. A Croat Domobran takes aim as (NCOs/officers?) look on. Croat Homeguard units plugged the line at various places on the perimeter held by the 13th SS Div. in northeastern Bosnia. They weren't known for reliability since units of the Handschar division often had to be dispatched to places lost by them (Kladanj fell 3 times). I wonder if some "remedial training" was due for that rifleman.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 19 Sep 2018 11:14

Excellent photos, Mujo! Thanks for sharing.

However, the man you thought was a Croatian Home Guard is in fact a German SS officer (or NCO). Notice the Sigrunen patch below his left brest pocket. (The SS men behind him with visible insignia/belts are NCOs.)

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 19 Sep 2018 20:39

Ivan Ž. wrote:
19 Sep 2018 11:14
Excellent photos, Mujo! Thanks for sharing.

However, the man you thought was a Croatian Home Guard is in fact a German SS officer (or NCO). Notice the Sigrunen patch below his left brest pocket. (The SS men behind him with visible insignia/belts are NCOs.)

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Hmm you seem to be correct. Must be an informal practice session. This photo was also getting around with the claim that private with the rifle is a Bosnian in either France or Germany undergoing marksmanship training. Nothing sticks out to confirm this, though the name of the photographer might be a clue.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 19 Sep 2018 20:43

It's a mistake, he's a French volunteer :) (Nothing to do with the Handschar.)

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by FlyingStukas » 22 Sep 2018 23:14

Hey everyone, the photos were uploaded by my (given that I got the photos from the museum) and published them on my Instagram page @bosnia_ww2. The French volunteer photo found its way on a Kriegsberichter Handschar album, so I assumed its Handschar. Also Ivan, thank you for your immense work on the Bandenkampf page. Živio!
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 22 Sep 2018 23:45

Hello, :welcome: and thanks for the kind words ;)

In the Falkowski album at the SS-Kriegsberichter Archive site, there are photos of several SS units, only one of which is "Handschar". The "Handschar" photos can be found on pages 6 and 7, files KB Falkowski 088-100.

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by FlyingStukas » 23 Sep 2018 00:22

Thank you for the welcome and the clarification. I don’t know what’s worse, Pinterest captions or actual historical items. From my museum experience, photos are divided into 1. No information 2. Little information 3. False information... And another thing, due to your superb knowledge on the topic, I have a question regarding my ancestry in World War 2. I don’t know if its fitting to ask here, or via email. Cheers.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 23 Sep 2018 00:24

Send me a private message for starters and we'll go from there ;)

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by balkanguy44 » 08 Oct 2018 11:23

Mujo wrote:
19 Sep 2018 02:04
Some of the newest finds to come out of the BiH History Museum. The bottom picture is of some interest. A Croat Domobran takes aim as (NCOs/officers?) look on. Croat Homeguard units plugged the line at various places on the perimeter held by the 13th SS Div. in northeastern Bosnia. They weren't known for reliability since units of the Handschar division often had to be dispatched to places lost by them (Kladanj fell 3 times). I wonder if some "remedial training" was due for that rifleman.

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The first picture reminds me of something that I've read, a small company of the division was responsible for helping Muslim civilians in the security area. Is it possible that they help some farmers in the picture? Possibly in the near of Brcko, because this company was mostly active in the Brcko-Area?
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 20 Oct 2018 22:25

balkanguy44 wrote:
08 Oct 2018 11:23

The first picture reminds me of something that I've read, a small company of the division was responsible for helping Muslim civilians in the security area. Is it possible that they help some farmers in the picture? Possibly in the near of Brcko, because this company was mostly active in the Brcko-Area?
I would imagine the hay is for the division's horses and mules. Mountain divisions tended to rely on a lot of mules for transport. The division's engineers made bridges but I was unaware of anything done for the civilians.

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by balkanguy44 » 21 Oct 2018 13:06

Mujo wrote:
20 Oct 2018 22:25
balkanguy44 wrote:
08 Oct 2018 11:23

The first picture reminds me of something that I've read, a small company of the division was responsible for helping Muslim civilians in the security area. Is it possible that they help some farmers in the picture? Possibly in the near of Brcko, because this company was mostly active in the Brcko-Area?
I would imagine the hay is for the division's horses and mules. Mountain divisions tended to rely on a lot of mules for transport. The division's engineers made bridges but I was unaware of anything done for the civilians.
Okay Mujo. I was thinking of the propaganda company.. I've read somewhere that they helped civilians etc.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by balkanguy44 » 28 Oct 2018 06:40

Can anyone help wit these photos? I've found them some time ago without information.
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