SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 23 Jul 2013 20:49

My newest finds.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 23 Jul 2013 20:52

Better resolutions of previous photos.

They are all from the April 1944 timeframe. Possibly after crossing into Bosnia at Brcko. The leaflets were dropped
ahead of their crossing the Sava. A more careful study can be done by cross referencing the buildings in the background.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 23 Jul 2013 20:57

This is the famous sequence of Feldgendarmerie horsemen.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Marcus » 23 Jul 2013 21:16

Please remember that it is required to list the source of photos you post here.

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 23 Jul 2013 21:26

Now these are really interesting.

Fighting in the Bosut forest by I/28 during Unternehmen Wegweiser.
I only posted this first better known photograph to explain the context of the following one.
From what we know, I/28 started as an Albanian formation within the 28th Regt, once they left to form the nucleus of the 21st, the battalion was rebuilt by newly conscripted Bosnians to a disasterous result at Lopare.
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The first picture is that of the two Bosnian radiomen working with a German signalsman. Behind them you see the muddy roads that proved so nightmarish for the division's first operation. Also of note are the 4 men closest to the camera carrying 7.92mm ammunition boxes and a spare MG42 barrel each. This is interesting because Sulejmanpasic's book makes note of how the partisans would run like rabbits each time a German machinegun opened up. It is also a good representative of how well the Germans used heavy weapons when fighting the partisans and also the fact that their squads revolved around the MG itself.
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This is possibly the only picture we have of Handschar infantry in a possible exchange of rifle fire with the partisans. The same men in the above picture have taken cover and you can see the same radiomen at center.
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 23 Jul 2013 21:33

Marcus Wendel wrote:Please remember that it is required to list the source of photos you post here.

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Marcus,
Most of these are unknown and were floating around the web.


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Mujo wrote:
Marcus Wendel wrote:Please remember that it is required to list the source of photos you post here.
Marcus,
Most of these are unknown and were floating around the web.

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If you found them on a website then include a link(s) to the website(s) in your posts.

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 23 Jul 2013 23:57

Can anyone confirm the identity of these men?
By the time the Mufti came around to inspect the men they had collar tabs and the Edelweiss insignia.
These seem to still be in training.

Source: http://haskala-bayern.blogspot.com/2012 ... chive.html
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This Kriegsberichter file also has more photographs of the men in training.
http://www.kriegsberichter-archive.com/ ... 9/start-90
Himmler's visit to the Neuhammer training grounds (inspecting the panzerjagers, artillerymen and engineers)
http://www.kriegsberichter-archive.com/ ... /start-285
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by ninoo » 24 Jul 2013 01:15

Mujo wrote:Can anyone confirm the identity of these men?
By the time the Mufti came around to inspect the men they had collar tabs and the Edelweiss insignia.
These seem to still be in training.

Source: http://haskala-bayern.blogspot.com/2012 ... chive.html
Haj_Amin_al-Husseini_reviewing_a_parade_of_soldiers_from_the_SS_13th_Division.jpg
Jennie Lebel's Mufti of Jerusalem book also has the same picture. The book said that the pic was taken during his visit in Neuhammer. Mielke shots about this visit is also show soldiers in training with collar tabs, the Edelweiss insignia, and helmet.

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by Mujo » 24 Jul 2013 04:25

Thanks for the cross-reference Ninoo.


Something else that didn't make sense to me. Did Staff NCOs rate the officer's belt?

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 19 Feb 2014 19:38

Hi, is this SS-Hauptsturmführer der Reserve Karl Liecke (Ib Quartiermeister (Logistik,Verwundeten- und Versorgungsdienste), the latter Ritterkreuzträger?

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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 16 Apr 2014 16:46

Quite famous picture of Handschar but not posted yet in this thread. Does anyone knows infos about it?

Source: http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=3273
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Re: Some SS "Handschar" photo-infos

Post by George Lepre » 17 Apr 2014 04:46

Hi -

Post 89: The officer in the overcoat to the right is Desiderius Hampel.

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