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Stauffenberg
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Post by Stauffenberg » 09 Apr 2002, 18:59

I got the information from a site run by a Russian archeologist in the Stalingrad area. The site seems to have disappeared and he is not answering emails. In that sense its not verified by other sources but the info he gave was quite detailed. There were two regiment sized battle groups--KG Stelle and KG Schmidt--backed up by an ad hoc artillery battalion using captured Russian guns. The unit initially had German officers but towards the end was completely Russian run. The men in the unit were all Russian defectors and Cossacks and they fought right to the end in the Tractor Factory area. This is indeed a fascinating piece of history. The image of Russians fighting Russians in Stalingrad right into 1943 is obviously not a story the Soviets were keen on having the world know. That of course, and the huge number of Russians fighting with the Germans within the pocket itself. Estimates there run into the tens of thousands.
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Post by MaPen » 09 Apr 2002, 22:09

Von Stumpfeld division:

Formed in Stalingrad on 12 Dec 1942. The ranks of this division were filled with Russian volunteers, Cossacks and Ukranians. The division was mainly armed with captures Russian weapons with some added anti-tank support provided by 9th Flak division. In the first period division was commanded by German officers down to the company level, but this positions were later taken by Russian officers. The division was destroyed in Stalingrad, at Tractor Factory, in Feb 1943.

Division OOB:

Von Stumpefeld Division HQ

Schmid Infantry Regiment
Schone Battalion (5/7/133)*
1 Company (2 LMGs)
2 Company (1 LMG)
Support Company (mot) (2 Russian 76mm anti-tank guns, 1 50mm gun)
Kamenberg Battalion (4/66/354)
1 Company (4 LMGs, 2 HMGs, 2 50mm and 2 Russian 82mm mortars, 1 75mm PAK 40)
2 Company (1 LMG, 1 88mm Flak 36, 3 20mm Flak, 1 50mm PAK 38 )
3 Company (4 LMGs, 1 HMG)
Reserve Company (2 LMGs, 2 Russian HMGs)
Lindner Battalion (3/33/211)*
1 Company (4 Russian LMGs, 4 Russian 82mm mortars, 2 Russian 45mm anti-tank guns)
2 Company (4 Russian LMGs, 2 HMGs, 1 75mm gun)
Eisenacker Battalion (0/45/141)*
1 Company (3 Russian LMGs, 1 Czech LMG, 1Russian HMG)
2 Company (2 (mot) 75mm guns PAK 40, 1 Russian 50mm mortar, 4 Russian 82mm mortars)
Korherr Battalion (7/49/344)*
1 Company (4 LMGs, 3 Russian LMGs, 1 50mm mortar and 1 75mm gun)
2 Company (4 LMGs, 6 Russian LMGs, 1 50mm gun)
1 (mot) Platoon (1 88mm and 2 20mm Flak guns)
2 (mot) Platoon (1 88mm and 1 20mm Flak guns)
1 Reserve Company (1 LMG and 2 Russian LMG)

Stelle Infantry Regiment
Engert Battalion
(4 companies no heavy weapons)
Von Caddnebruck Battalion
(4 companies, no heavy weapons)
Kharkov II Battalion
(12 mortars, 5 LMGs, 1 37mm, 2 50mm and 2 75mm guns)

Morossowskaja Cossaks Battalion
1 Company (6 LMGs)
2 Company (6 LMGs)
3 Company (4 LMGs)

Support (2 88mm Flak guns, 3 20mm Flak guns, 2 37mm PAK 36)
Detachment 9th Flak Division (Stumpfeld Detachment)
(2 88mm and 9 20mm Flak guns)

Abendrot Tank Company
(three T-34 and two T-70)

Artillery Group:
1 French 105mm gun
2 German 105mm guns
1 German 150mm howitzer
4 88mm Flak guns
6 20mm Flak guns
1 75mm field gun
2 Russian 47mm anti-tank guns (English 2nd pounder gun)
5 100mm guns


* (officers/ NCO / men)


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Stauffenberg
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Stempefeld Division

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Post by Stauffenberg » 09 Apr 2002, 22:44

Excellent detail--can I ask your sources?

Regards,

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#19

Post by MaPen » 09 Apr 2002, 22:50

Sure,

there is an excellent site on Osttruppen here: http://www.ostbataillon.by.ru/home.htm

It's all on the internet, just have to find it :D :D

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Stauffenberg
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Stempefeld Division

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Post by Stauffenberg » 09 Apr 2002, 23:41

Yes actually I have that site thanks. You can find an amazing amount of research data on the net, but not everything. I defy you to come up with a site that gives detailed information on Italian Army dispositions for World War One for example. There is a site giving a fair amount of info, but nothing on actual Army composition and deployment etc.

BTW I have a TOAW design of the campaign in southern Russia posted at warfarehq in ongoing AARs. The Stempefeld division will appear in a few weeks I believe. :wink:

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To Frentebro- Book on Police Bn.

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Post by tyskaorden » 11 Apr 2002, 10:27

Hi Frentebro!
I think the book in question is Ordinary Men - Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the final solution in Poland by Christopher R. Browning.

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