Persian (Iranian) or Turk volunteers in the Wehrmacht ???

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Persian (Iranian) or Turk volunteers in the Wehrmacht ???

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Post by Panchogun » 28 Sep 2002, 19:43

Can anyone provide me with any info, or direct me to a site, where I can find info re. either Persian (Iranian) or Turk volunteers in the Wehrmacht. I seem to recall some mention of Turks in the Waffen SS.
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Post by Daniel L » 28 Sep 2002, 19:59

you must have been reading about Ostürkische WaffenVerbände der SS, it seems that there is little photographic evidence 'tough.

http://www.wssob.com/000abtost.html

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Post by Marcus » 28 Sep 2002, 20:09

Osttürkischen Waffen-Verbände der SS was formed 1944 as 1. Ostmuselmanische SS-Reigment with the support of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, with the intension of expanding it to a division, Muselmanischen SS-Division Neu-Turkistan. The men can from the turkic units in the heer that was disbanded (450th, 480th and I/94 Turkic battalions), prisoners of war and men working in Germany.
It was transferred to Belorussia Feb 1944 were it trained and was used for anti-partisan missions.
The unit contained some troublesome elements and SS-Hauptsturmführer Billig tried to handle the problem by shooting 78 suspected mutineers, but he was soon removed from command.
It was sent to Poland where it fought the Polish Home Army during the Warsaw uprising, being attached to the Dirlewanger brigade.
It was transferred to Slovakia in the autumn of 1944 where it was redesignated Osttürkischen Waffen-Verbande der SS. In Dec 1944 450 - 500 deserted from this unit of which 300 later returned.
The Azerberjani regiment was removed from the unit 30 Dec 1944 and transferred to Kaukasicher Waffen-Verbände der SS. It recieved soldiers from the disbanded Waffen-Gebirgs-Brigade der SS (Tatar Nr. 1) Feb 1945 to replace the Azerberjani soldiers.
It was transferred Austria were it continued to train until the end of the war.

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Post by Marcus » 28 Sep 2002, 20:10

For more info, see "Forgotten Legions: Obscure Combat Formations of the Waffen-SS" by Antonio J. Munoz.

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Fez with swastika ???

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Post by Panchogun » 28 Sep 2002, 21:13

Any info or photos re. the Turk Heer Units before they were disbanded?

Seems that I recall having seen photos of troops wearing a fez with either SS runes or the swastika.

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Post by Marcus » 28 Sep 2002, 21:20

Panchogun wrote:Seems that I recall having seen photos of troops wearing a fez with either SS runes or the swastika.
That would most likely be Albanian troops.

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Post by Daniel L » 28 Sep 2002, 22:53

I remember that photo from the third reich book series, are you sure that they are albanians?

As I said before, there are almost no photographic evidence of the turkish units.

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Post by Marcus » 28 Sep 2002, 23:06

charlie don't surf wrote:I remember that photo from the third reich book series, are you sure that they are albanians?
Those soldiers are probably Bosnian muslims from 13. Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS Handschar (kroatische Nr. 1), I forgot those when I mentioned Albanians above.
charlie don't surf wrote:As I said before, there are almost no photographic evidence of the turkish units.
The above mentioned books include several photos of volunteers from Osttürkischen Waffen-Verbände der SS.

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Post by Daniel L » 29 Sep 2002, 00:25

are there pictures of the cuff titles?

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Post by Marcus » 29 Sep 2002, 02:22

charlie don't surf wrote:are there pictures of the cuff titles?
As far as I know no cufftitles were issued to them (planned and manufactured yes, but not issued).

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Post by ozs86 » 04 Oct 2002, 20:44

well most of the turkish recuitments were from ussr(mainly azerbaijan)
i read one man's memoir called murat mungan in a newspaper....that's about it!

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