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Post by LMA-17 » 12 Oct 2005, 02:47

Nazi ideology need an ideology enemy as theirs faith core. Because the Reds already taken a class enemy, thus Nazis taken a racial enemy, and they choose Jews. Thus, no Jews, no Nazis.
Of course, not all Nazis were believers in a "master race". However, even the number one believer of the "master race", i.e. Himmler, must swallowed a bitter pill for theirs crazy idea and turned to another crazy idea, "the honorary Aryan", to got more men for his master race soldiers :)

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Post by Tosun Saral » 18 Feb 2006, 12:36

Georgien wrote:What does "Biz Alla Bilen" mean?
This doen't mean "God with us" But "We know God" or "We believe in God"
In Turkish of Turkey: "Biz Allahı Biliriz"


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Post by Orlov » 21 Feb 2006, 23:00

miliceboy wrote:I am studying the Turkistan volunteers and seek any photos you might have. Here are some.
Hello,
I proposed find book of Jaroslaw Gdanski "Zapomniani zolnierze Hitlera" (Forgotten soldiers of Hitler) ISBN 8389667320, but unfornately this excellent monography was written in Polish.

But for your use will useful detailed OdB Osttruppen including all Turkestani ostbataillonen with their commanders.

bestreg Orlov
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Post by Sandtrooper » 24 Oct 2006, 04:31

miliceboy wrote:I am studying the Turkistan volunteers and seek any photos you might have. Here are some.
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Hello, I am a collector of photos and was doing some research on the Turkistan Volunteers as I recently aquired a photo of a Turkistan Volunteer. I was amazed that the first picture shown on this thread is the same one I have. What are the odds? Even though there are spots/blemishes on the picture above that do not show up on my photo below....I suspect my picture must be a fake.....what are your thoughts?



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Post by Askold » 28 Oct 2006, 19:35

Your's is definately a bad copy. I got one too and its a re-print - there is a person in Germany that owns the original slide of the photo and once in a while sells the reprints on German Ebay.

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Post by mert233 » 29 Jun 2009, 01:44

Georgien wrote:What does "Biz Alla Bilen" mean?
"Biz Alla Bilen" mean to We believe in Allah (Turkey Turkish : Biz Allah Bilenleriz)

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 29 Jun 2009, 16:38

Turkestani volunteers receving instructions from german officer (france 1944)...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 29 Jun 2009, 16:40

Turkistani volunteers playing cards with german officer...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 29 Jun 2009, 16:42

Now they're playing chess...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 29 Jun 2009, 16:43

Hauptmann Bei inspecting Turkistani volunteers in Greece...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 29 Jun 2009, 16:49

Traditional saber dance...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 29 Jun 2009, 16:54

Turkistan volunteers in France...

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Turkistan volunteers in France...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 29 Jun 2009, 17:07

Turkmenistan volunteers in Greece...

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Post by Tosun Saral » 30 Jun 2009, 00:07

"Vatan ne Türkiye'dir Türklere ne Türkistan
Vatan büyük ve Müebbed bir ülkedir Turan"

by Turkish turanist poet Ziya Gökalp

English.
"Homeland is not Turkey or Turkistan for Turks
But Homeland is a great and eternal country called Turan"

During the WW2 many turcic citizens of Soviet Russia, mostly Cremean Turks deserted from the red army and joined to Germans. Germans organized a unit with those Turcic soldiers. When I was learning German in Hammmer-Purgstall courses in Vienna, before my University education in 1961 our teacher Mr Hans (I forgot his surname, May he rest in Paradise) who could speak all Turcic languages, was a SS Officers as translater in that unit. As students we are all lazzy and crayzy. He always showed his finger to us and said in his beautiful Turcic axcent, joking "Look boys. I am a SS officer. I don't care that you are Turks I dont care what you are or whom you are"

After the war allies gave all those Turcic soldiers to Russians back. Russians executed all of them even their families. It is a tragedy. Every one speaks about ARMENIAN genocide, but no body knows about the fate of poor Turks executed by Russians.

Cengiz Dagci a Cremean Turk was one of those soldiers who fought with Germans againts Russians in WW2. He found a way and escaped from the British prison camp and refugeed to Turkey. He wrote books about his memories. The books was published by Varlik Yayinlari in 1950's in Istanbul. Name of the books
"Onlarda Insandi (They were also humanbeings)"
"O Topraklar Bizimdi (Those lands were ours)"
He wrote all his works in Turkish. I heard some of his works were translated into English in Britain. After publishing ten pages of his novel "Onlar da insandi"(They were human too) in English, London Literature Society draw attention to his works and he was critized as "a great novelist as much as Soljenitsin". You must search in US or British Libraries after his name for the books.

Tatars, Cerkess and other Turkic tribes suffered too much. We never forget that sufferings.
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This was first posted on Feb 16 2006 by me.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ight=dagci

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