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French SS Officers

Post by Juanjo » 07 Oct 2005 20:08

I´m new in this forum.
Sorry by my bad english.
I need the first name of these officers ss:

¿ de Londaize: Obersturmführer
¿ de Perricot: Hauptsturmführer
¿ Roy: Hauptsturmführer
¿ Lelongt: Sturmbannführer
¿ Multrier: Obersturmführer
¿ Veyrieras: Obersturmführer
¿ Obitz: Hauptsturmführer
¿ Leproux: Hauptsturmführer
¿ Jotard: Hauptsturmführer
¿ Havette: Hauptsturmführer
¿ Beziau: Hauptsturmführer

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Post by Daniel Laurent » 08 Oct 2005 05:58

Hello,
I can try to find that for you but would like to know
- From where you got the names
- Why would you like to get those details.

To be honest, all those names look unknown to me... but I know people who are more equipped.
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Daniel

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Post by Juanjo » 08 Oct 2005 09:53

Hello Daniel
The source of these names is the book "Carlomagno. Voluntarios franceses en la Waffen SS" writed by Carlos Caballero Jurado.
I´m doing a list with all names the foreigns ss officers for my archives.
Thank you

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Post by Daniel Laurent » 08 Oct 2005 10:36

Hi, Juanjo,
OK, I will see if my contacts can find some more precisions.
For your archives, see below the names of the French Waffen SS who attended the officer training at the Bad-Tolz SS-Junkerschule end of 1943.
Regards
Daniel

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Post by Daniel Laurent » 08 Oct 2005 10:41

Honorable members,
Juanjo project could become an Axishistory project, what do you think?
Maybe this thread could become "sticky" and pile up names of various nationalities till we get *all* of them.
If Juanjo, for sure, agree also to post whatever he has, to compile whatever we post and then send the overall outcome to Marcus :-)
Regards
Daniel

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Post by Juanjo » 08 Oct 2005 13:21

Hi Daniel

OFICIALES FRANCESES DE LA WAFFEN SS

OBERFÜHRER.-

Edgar PUAUD

OBERSTURMBANNFÜHRER.-

Paul-Marie GAMORY-DUBOURDEAU
Emile RAYBAUD

STURMBANNFÜHRER.-

Jean BOUDET-GHEUSIE
Jean BRIDOUX
Pierre CANCE
Joseph DARNAND
Jacques DORIOT
¿ LELONGT
Jean MAYOL DE LUPE
Jean De VAUGELAS

HAUPTSTURMFÜHRER.-

Jean BASSOMPIERE
Maurice BERRET
¿ BEZIAU
Michael BISIAU
Pierre BONNEFOY
Victor De BOURMONT
Jean CROISILLE
Henri Joseph FENET
¿ FLAMAND
¿ HAVETTE
¿ JOTARD
¿ LEPROUX
¿ MARTIN
Emile De MONNEUSE
¿ OBITZ
¿ de PERRICOT
Jean-Marcel RENAULT
¿ RICHERT
¿ ROY
¿ SCHLISLER

OBERSTURMFÜHRER.-

Pierre ALAUX
¿ ANDRE
Jean ARTUS
¿ AUPHAN
Ivan BARTOLOMEI
Marcel BAUDOUIN
Maurice BENETAUX
¿ de BREGEAUD
¿ CHAUFOUR
¿ CRESPIN
¿ DEFEVER
¿ DELILE
¿ DUPUYAU
¿ DURANDY
¿ FATIN
¿ FRANCAIS
¿ FRAYSSE
Jean-Baptiste GEROMINI
¿ LABUZE
¿ de LONDAIZE
Henri MAUD´HUIT
¿ METAIS
¿ MICHEL
¿ de MOROGE
¿ MULTRIER
¿ SAINT-MAGNE
Louis SALLE
¿ TARDAN
¿ THIBAUD
Noel De TISSOT
¿ VERGNIAUD
¿ VEYRIERAS
Audibert De VITROLLES
¿ WAGNER

UNTERSTURMFÜHRER.-

Pierre ALBERT
Jean AMBROSE
Roger AUDIBERT
Aime BERTHAUD
Jean BODOM
Jean BRAZIER
Pierre BROCARD
¿ COLNION
¿ COUNIL
Rene FAYARD
Yves FRELUT
Leon GAULTIER
¿ de GENOUILLAC
¿ HERPE
Pierre HUG
¿ JOUBERT
Henri KREIS
Serge KROTOFF
¿ MARTRES
Christian De La MAZIERE
Valentin PATZAK
Paul PIGNARD-BERTHET
¿ RIGEADE
¿ ROUGEMOUS
Jacques SARRAILHE
Albert VERNEY

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Post by Daniel Laurent » 08 Oct 2005 15:52

Shifted on next page of thread, to facilitate reading
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Post by Juanjo » 08 Oct 2005 17:35

Thanks Daniel

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Post by zabrali » 09 Oct 2005 10:33

hi juanjo

W-Stubaf. Max Lelongt former III Bataillon IR 638 ( L V F )

w-Hstuf. René Obitz former I Bataillon IR 638 ( L V F )

w-Hstuf. Justin Jautard former III Bataillon IR 638 ( L V F )

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Post by Juanjo » 09 Oct 2005 10:40

Thanks zabrali

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Post by Daniel Laurent » 09 Oct 2005 11:45

Thanks, Zabrali.
My list above has been edited with your new information.

Juanjo,
You list of men without first name is now posted at http://www.lesvolontaires.net
(French forum)
If I get something, I will let you know.
Regards
Daniel

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Post by Juanjo » 09 Oct 2005 12:11

Ok and thanks daniel

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Post by Daniel Laurent » 09 Oct 2005 13:23

Don not thanks me, I enjoy building that list at least as much as you :D
I realised that several names from you list were not in mine and added them in the XXX edition of my list above!

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Post by Juanjo » 09 Oct 2005 13:40

Hi Daniel

In the book "Carlomagno. Voluntarios franceses en la Waffen SS", the autor, Carlos Caballero Jurado said:

"Ni Darnand ni Doriot, ambos reconocidos como Sturmbannführer por los alemanes, obtuvieron plaza en la División SS "Charlemagne"

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Post by Daniel Laurent » 09 Oct 2005 14:08

Hi Juanjo,
Do I look so clever to you that you think I can read Spanish? :lol:

However, being a latinos like you, I can go a bit through a latin language and guess it means something like:

"Neither Darnand nor Doriot, however recognised as Sturmbannführer by the Germans, ever participated actively to the División SS Charlemagne".

It my "translation" is correct, right for Darnand but, sorry and with all due respect to Carlos Caballero Jurado, wrong for Jacques Doriot.

He was first a politician, the boss of the neo-nazi PPF (French Popular Party) and his main target all along the war was to take power in France, turn the country into a Fascist one and join the Axis. He fought in the Eastern Front within the LVF who was composed of many PPF members but never joined the Waffen SS nor was given a title there.

In June 44, a number of PPF members assisted the German forces in Normandy as liaison agents or intelligence agents. Doriot visited them wearing his LVF uniform and then retreated with the Germans till Germany were he was killed on February 22, 1945 by a British airplane attack on his car.

See the photos attached: Werhmacht LVF uniform, not SS.

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Daniel
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