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Nordkaukasische Legion !

Post by kindzjal » 07 Nov 2005 22:36

I'm looking for any info about the Nordkaukasische Legion and Bergkaukasische Legion.
When it was formed and how did they end ???
Also info about SULTAN GIRAY KLYCH ? Was he the commander of the Nordkaukasische Legion ?
When was he born ? How he became an ally of Germany ???
I would be pleased by anything : pics ,links, anything !

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Does anybody have a photo of Sultan Giray Klych ?????

Post by kindzjal » 07 Nov 2005 22:40

HELP needed !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just anything !
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Nordkaukasiche Legion

Post by jarek_g » 08 Nov 2005 07:20

Kindjal,
some info about two Nordkaukasische Legionen:

Nordkaukasiche Legion
14.06.1942 - Nordkaukasiche Legion was formed in Mirogrod from Dulag 120 [Legion subordinated to staff 162. ID]
15.01.1943 - renamed 2. Turkvölkische Legion
2.06.1943 - used to forming IR 303 / 162. ID
CO’s:
from 14.06.42 - Maj. Schmidt
from 4.07.42 - Hptm. Wilhelm Olbricht
from 28.07.42 - Obstl. Ristow
Units:
I. Ausb. Btl. renamed Btl. I./111
II. Ausb. Btl. renamed Btl. II./295 and later I./73
III. Ausb. Btl. renamed Btl. I./4 (Geb.)
IV. Ausb. Btl. renamed Btl. I./97 (Jg.)
V. Ausb. Btl. renamed Btl. I./101 (Jg.)
VI. Ausb. Halb Btl. renamed Halb Btl. 842
VII. Ausb. Halb Btl. renamed Halb Btl. 843
verst. Nordkauk. Inf. Kp. 1/844
verst. Nordkauk. Inf. Zug 2/844

Nordkaukasische Legion
In 1942 was formed - III./ Turk. Kaukasisch - Mohamedaniche Legion
24.03.1942 - Kaukasich-Mohamedanische Legion [Legion subordinated to staff Aufstellungsstab der Ostlegionen and later Kommando der Ostlegionen]
2.08.1942 - renamed Nordkaukasiche Legion Paprotnia later Wesola near Warsaw
10.10.1943 - moved from Wesola to France
CO’s:
From 4.03.42 - Maj. Dr Wilhelm Riedel
2.08.42 - Hptm. Wilhelm Housselle
later probably Obstl. Voelkel, well-known as Führer der Kaukasiche Truppe

I. Ausb. Btl. renamed Btl. 800
II. Ausb. Btl. renamed Btl. 801
III. Ausb. Btl. › Btl. 802
IV. Ausb. Btl. › Btl. 803
V. Ausb. Btl. › Btl. 835
VI. Ausb. Btl. › Btl. 836
VII. Ausb. Btl. › Btl. 842
VIII. Ausb. Btl. › Btl. 843

Bestreg.
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Nordkaukasische Legion

Post by kindzjal » 08 Nov 2005 10:12

THANX A LOT JAREK ?
Do You know if there were any Kaukasian legionnares involved in fighting during the Warsaw uprising ?
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Kaukasus will be free ! Some German propaganda :)

Post by kindzjal » 08 Nov 2005 12:03

German propaganda poster.
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Does somebady know where this foto was taken ?

Post by kindzjal » 08 Nov 2005 12:06

Kaukasian volunteers .But where was this foto taken,??? Maybe in Poland ???
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Post by Mehmet Fatih » 08 Nov 2005 14:29

This volunteers in photo are not kaukasische legion.
They are Ostturkicsher volunteers.

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Post by Semenov » 08 Nov 2005 22:28

waffen_für _alle write:
This volunteers in photo are not kaukasische legion.
They are Ostturkicsher volunteers.

Hi,
You are wrong - they are from Kauk.Waf.Vb. d. SS, one from them wears kindzjal collar patch introduced for Kaukasian SS. This data confirm few Italian and Russian book's.

Bio Sultan Kelech Girei:
Born 1880 in Maikop, executed in Moscow 16.01.1947. He finished Rus. Officer Cavalry school. Participated in WW1, colonel, participant in Kornilovputch in august 1917. From March 1918 CO of Cherkessky cavalry Rgt. in the White army gen. Kornilov, after that CO 2-nd Cavalry brigade of the 1-st Cavalry division. From december 1918 CO of the Cherkessky cavalry division and gen.-major. After that in Georgia and after in emigration in France.

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Post by Mehmet Fatih » 08 Nov 2005 22:46

Hello Semenov,

This website doesent say so.But they still can be wrong.
http://www.turkhaber.org/30.html

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Post by Semenov » 08 Nov 2005 22:52

This site does not contain any references and sources and on my my sight is primitive.

My data confirm book:
S. Drobjazko "East volunteer's in WH, police and SS. Moscow 2000.
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This are Kaukasian Legionnares for sure !

Post by kindzjal » 09 Nov 2005 10:16

This foto is to be found in many books, by example in the russian book : Foreign volunteers in the german forces.
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Post by Mehmet Fatih » 09 Nov 2005 13:42

Semenov,

It seems that the the site is mistaken.
Can you give me the neme of your sources and their authors?

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Semenov Thanx !

Post by kindzjal » 09 Nov 2005 19:36

Thanx a lot for the photo of Sultan :) :D
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Post by Doktor Krollspell » 09 Nov 2005 21:15

Hello Kindzjal!

About your question on the Warzaw uprising...
Do You know if there were any Kaukasian legionnares involved in fighting during the Warsaw uprising ?
The Ostmuselmanische SS-Regiment 1, under the command of SS-Obersturmführer Gulam Alimov was attached to the Dirlewanger Penal unit in August of 1944 and participated to put down the uprising. There where also two Azerbaijani battalions present in the fighting that where from the Bergmann Regiment ("Gorets").

Source and recommended reading: "The East came West - Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist Volunteers in the German Armed Forces 1941-1945" edited by Antonio J. Munoz (2001).


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Post by Ivan Ž. » 10 Nov 2005 11:45

Here's a nice photo of Bergkaukasien Legion from "Die Wehrmacht" magazine.
Legion's armshield is clearly visible.

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