Tatars as volunteers in the Wehrmacht

[Larry D.]

Thanks Loïc and Lavella! That helps a lot to detail the Regiment's history in France and what happened to it during the retreat in August.

--Larry

[Alec Trevelyan 006]

My granddad served in the Waffen-SS. Why are you saying that they only served in the Wehrmacht?

[Larry D.]

My granddad served in the Waffen-SS. Why are you saying that they only served in the Wehrmacht?

Kindly define "they".

[Alec Trevelyan 006]

Iam a Tatar i mean Tatars served in both WSS and HEER.

[Larry D.]

Iam a Tatar i mean Tatars served in both WSS and HEER.

That is correct. But their employment in units belonging to the Waffen-SS and so labeled did not occur until 1944. Prior to that they were only to be found in Heer units or in auxiliary police units (Schuma) that came under the Deutschen Polizei apparatus.

[Loïc]

Hello,
it seems that the unit in Le Puy where there was the Staff of the Legion wasn't a numbered Battalion but the Stabsbataillon or Reservebataillon of the Wolgatatarische Legion.

Thank you Prosper for the translation

[michiel01]

I'm sorry to dig up this very old thread, but I'm very interested in the: Wolgatatar. Infanterie-Btl. 826
they suposedly have been staged in Breda (The Netherlands).
Could anyone provide some more information on this point?

[Semenov]

Could anyone provide some more information on this point?

This unit was formed 15.01.1943 in Edlino, CO - capitan Shermuli, FP 42935 A. From March 1943 in Holland, near Breda. From Oktober 2 near Teteringen. On December 18 near Vlaardingen (west of Rotterdam). From January 1944 till april 1944 near Voorns. From 19.04.1944 as IV/723 inf.rgt. From autumn 1944 as 826 btl. in 25 Army. On March 21 1945 in Teteringen, on May 7 1945 near Rodrecht.

[michiel01]

Thanks for the quick reply!
But, It's confusing, the unit couldn't have been back in Teteringen. Teteringen is very close to Breda and both liberated on october 28 1944.
So they couldn't be there back in 1945. And is rodrecht possibly Dordrecht?
edit: do you might have a source of this?

[Loïc]

and it seems that this Battalion was sent in France, mentionned in Challans, Vendée Dept. on the Atlantic coast...
in 1944 I assume, before september

Regards
Loïc

[Semenov]

Thanks for the quick reply!
But, It's confusing, the unit couldn't have been back in Teteringen. Teteringen is very close to Breda and both liberated on october 28 1944.
So they couldn't be there back in 1945. And is rodrecht possibly Dordrecht?
edit: do you might have a source of this?

My source - http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=70379
with town names may be mistake

[michiel01]

I let a friend have a look at the website, my knowledge of Russian (as that is what it is) is zero.

The only proof of this unit I found is in France, 1 coy has been awarded for taking down an allied airplane with handgun fire.
I contacted a local history club in the towns they were in Holland, I hope for some leads on this, I will post them here when I discover something!

(the reason I reaserch this unit is because they were mentioned as being stationed in Breda, my hometown which I do a lot of research on.)

[Kurti]

Hello folks,
After a longtime reading in this Forum I decided to register me! English is not my native laguage but I give my best!
But now to the important stuff, I'm very interested in the eastern legions and I have a question to the Tatars.
I found a Illustrationen with the uniforms of tatar volunteers, which show them in captured polish and czechoslovakian uniforms. Does have anybody Informationens about this? Is this just imagination from the designer of this picture? Because I only know that these units wear normal german uniforms.
Here is the link

http://pre01.deviantart.net/f398/th/pre ... 966e9k.png

With best regards Kurti

[clement]

The Germans recycled everything they could – Hiwis often wore Russian uniformw with an armband, while as noted the Germans used a lot of Italian camo cloth – they also re-cycled blue-grey French uniform material to make uniforms for the Russian Liberation Army

[Kurti]

Thanks for your quick answer! I know pictures with the Armshield "im Dienst der Wehrmacht" but are there any fotos of volunteers wearing other captured or improvised uniforms?