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One man's story

Post by Melnyk » 31 Jan 2007 20:01

Oleh NYKYFORUK. He served with the Gal Div’s art rgt at Brody. He escaped from the pocket with two others. After Brody he was sent with a dozen officer candidates to the school at BENESHOVO, but only one Ukrainian remained whilst the rest including NYKYFORUK were sent to POSEN. As the Red Army advanced his group was despatched to the front line. He was wounded in one eye and a leg. He pretended to be a Pole and was subsequently treated by a Polish Red Cross hospital. When the police started to check his details he left the hospital and returned to his home town of L’viv. Unable to locate his family who had fled to Poland he joined the UPA and was a commander in Khrin’s company. He was later captured by the Soviets and rather lucidly avoided immediate execution when he was handed over to the counterespionage section of the Red Army. He was tried and sentenced to 10 years in a Soviet concentration camp. He was released in 1955, but his sentence was extended so that he had to spend another 5 years in exile in Siberia. He returned to L’viv but was pressurised by the KGB to be an informer. To avoid this he returned to Kirgizia where he married and still lives to this day.

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Post by Askold » 31 Jan 2007 21:04

Mike, thanks for reply and interesting info. Could it be that Lutsiv and Owad simply missed out on this tab? Examining it, I don't see any red flags that could indicate it to be a fake. The tab was also purchased at a modest price and clearly shows signs of age. I think its the same as with home made embroidered lion shield - someone made (perhaps becuase of the lack of) such tab for himself in limited quanities.

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Post by FRANCY RITTER » 13 Feb 2007 14:59

Hello !! :)
An SS-Hauptscharführer of the Ukranian 14th Waffen-SS Division , currently on Ebay.... :o :wink:


Click on Ebay's GIF..

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Interesting

Post by Melnyk » 13 Feb 2007 18:50

Interested to see this picture on ebay. I own the original!

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Post by Serbian boy » 13 Feb 2007 23:40

And he is not a Hauptsturmfuhrer, but a Hauptscharfuhrer.
Melnyk, do you know his name?

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Post by Askold » 14 Feb 2007 01:20

Its actually a copy. None of the photos being sold have any paper markings.

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Post by patrynius » 25 Mar 2007 16:55

Hi,

I'm looking for information about commanders od 14 SS Div. Maybe You thing it's easy to say, but as I prepare material about division on our portal here http://www.dws.xip.pl/reich/waffen/14dgren.html I found some problems.

As I know for sure thee were 2 commanders:
W.Schimana and later F. Freitag up to the end.
Of course there were little mess up at the end with UVV - and non-formal commander gen M. Krata (Pavlo Schandruk - leader of UVV appointed him).
But, I also found information about N. Heimann - that during August 1944, just after Brody, he was also a commander - in september Freitag back.
Lexikon der W has the same info here http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... derung.htm

AHF http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1959 say smtg else.

OF course there were sometimes sit that one man commands diffrent units - so what can you say about Heimann??

Also heard about Sylvester Stadler - as commander between April and July 1944 - but for me he is unbelievable (especially about times).

So, can you help? :)

And nice to see this forum again
regards

p.s. I also have problem with Heilmann on http://axishistory.com/index.php?id=49
As I compare diffrent information I have smth like this:
1943.10.08 - 1944.02.17 - chief of staff VI KA SS
1943.04.01 - 1944.08.01 - chief of staff IV KPanc SS
1944.02.17 - 1944.07.21 - commander 15. div of SS
1944.05.25 - 1944.06.05 - chief of staff VII KA SS
1944.07.20. - 1944.08.06 - commander IV KPanc SS
1944.07- 1944.09.05 - commander 14. div of SS

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commanders of 14 Galician division

Post by Melnyk » 25 Mar 2007 18:27

Hello

I have checked all known documentary sources regarding personal postings to the 14 Galician Division. To my knowledge the division had 2 commanders:

1. SS-Brigadeführer Walter Schimana: born 12:3:1898 in Troppau Czechoslovakia - died 12.9.1948 in Salzburg. SS Nr. 337,753 / Party Nr. 49,042. Holder of Iron Cross 1st and 2nd Class awarded for anti-partisan actions). Commander of 'Kampfgruppe Schimana'. He is shown as being responsible for the formation of the 14. Division in the SS-FHA. Kdo. Ant d.Waffen-SS: Org.Tgb.Nr.982/43 g.Kdos.v. 30.7.1943 Aufstellung der SS-Frei.Division "Galizien". For further details of career see Personal-Akte Walter Schimana NA, A3343-SSO-078B & his RuSHA file NA, A3343-RS-F0316.

he was replaced on 20 October 1943 by SS-Oberführer Fritz Julius Gottfried Freitag: Born 28 April, 1894, in Allenstein east Prussia; Party Nr. 3,052,501 \ SS Nr. 393,266. Married with two children, Freitag was the son of a railway official who served in the German armed forces in WWI from 1.4.1914 until 17.12.1918 and the Freikorps from 15.1.1919 until 15.4.1919. On 3.2.1920 he joined the Schutzpolizei (security police) and rose to the rank of Oberführer (colonel). Freitag transferred to the 4 SS-Polizei Panzergrenadier Division at the outbreak of WWII. See Personalverfügung Der SS-Oberführer Fritz Freitag, Personal File NA, A3343 SSO-220.

Freitag commanded the divison until 9 May 1945.

KRAT did not command the division for so much as 1 hour before 9th May 1945.

The division had no other commander. In Freitag's absence, command was temporarily given to the senoir regimental commander Friedrich BEYERSDORF and the division's cheif of staff Wolf Dietrich HEIKE, but these men were in charge for no more than 4 weeks in the absence of their commander.

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Post by patrynius » 25 Mar 2007 19:42

Hi Melnyk

Thank You for info.

So.. there are the same as mine, that means Schimana and Freitag. Freitag commited Suicide, and after that unformally gen. Krata command div and led them - to POW.
But I have info that at Brody Pocket, at the end of battle, F.Freitag resign (after 20.07.44) because of loosing control on his division during hard battle - it was in Bialy Kamien. Corps commander gen. Lange aprroved it and gen. Lindemann got commands over that-what left from 14 div. SS.
I don't know what later his soldier things about him...

So, i thing most pages in internet aren't correct..
As i know it is posibble that Heilmann was div commander. But he wasn't. Why he is sometimes said as commander??
We are making SS-officers bio - alphabetally http://www.dws.xip.pl/reich/biografie.html that's way we wanting to have as clear info as posible

And at last - what's your sources of that info?? I have some articles of polish historians but i'm not sure all of this-that's why i'm checking it

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Post by patrynius » 26 Mar 2007 10:52

I'm also looking for info what happen with commanding during reconstruction- after Freitag resign in Bordy pocket? I have some info which I post above. But what was later-during reconstruction??
And when HEIKE was a"commander"??
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Ukrainian SS volunteers video

Post by Askold » 03 May 2007 07:55

Found this on youtube, but a word of caution - only the newsreal has any historical value, the rest of the video is full of mistakes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW2DT6ZrU5A

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Post by Melnyk » 09 May 2007 14:05

The balck and white footage is the original German propaganda footage taken of the rallies held to recruit for the Division in Kolomya, Stanislav and L'viv.

Apart from the recent colour footage of the vets the rest has been inserted in typical Soviet anti-division sytle with no basis in fact whatsoever.

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Post by Askold » 09 May 2007 20:21

Actually I should mention the mistakes in chronological order:

1. Not 70 000 but 80 000 volunteeres
2. In between showing the original footage they incerted an original video of a woman being dragged by her hair. That video clip is either from liquidation of Vilnus jews or Lviv getto and is not related to the division, however the way its inserted it seems like a part of the video.
3. It claims the division was whipped out in first real combat, whoever battle of Brody was not the first combat and unlike other WH division who got trapped the division broke out and got re-assembled.
4. Video claims that since then division never took part in conflict which is not true
5. Video latter shows footage of UPA veterans cliaming them to be Galicia veterans and says: Ukrainian government SPONSORS such parades of SS veterans. While the footage is of an UPA parade which had nothing to do with Galicia divison. Typical example of russian propaganda aimed to defame the division.

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Post by tom_deba » 09 May 2007 21:26

Just Russian propaganda...

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