Ukrainians in the Waffen-SS & Wehrmacht

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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by 14thpanzerjager » 31 Oct 2010 02:20

Having a problem. message tells me my image is 928 pixels wide, more than the 800 allowed. I'm not smart enough to figure how to recitify this.

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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by Zulu » 02 Nov 2010 06:48

Here I send some more photos of my grandfather in Rimini. After sending them more. Greetings
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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by kindzjal » 03 Nov 2010 19:46

Very interesting picks. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by Zulu » 04 Nov 2010 04:04

More pictures of Rimini. Greetings
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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by Askold » 05 Nov 2010 04:39

Excellent photos! Note the fellow wearing self propelled artillery wrap on the last photo. Absolutely fantastic, thank you for sharing, and if you happen to have more - please post them!

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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by Zulu » 05 Nov 2010 05:46

Some more photos of Rimini.
Greetings
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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by Askold » 10 Nov 2010 01:19

Zulu wrote:Some more photos of Rimini.
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- Excellent photos with some rare uniform details! Would it be possible to see a close up scan of the first person in the last photo? I believe he is wearing a divisional cap badge on the side of the hat. Also, is it possible to see a larger scan of the officer in the first photo? He is still retaining his UNA boards and lion shield - contrary to the British law forbidding to wear all kinds of insignias.

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Re: Photos of 14 SS Galicia Division

Post by Escapeh » 05 Apr 2011 06:00

Curious, how common were camouflage smocks in the division? I have only seen dot-44 in use.

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Re: Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division

Post by Askold » 13 Apr 2011 06:33

Some earlier recruits did use them, as did the officers. Vast majority however was wearing Dot-44.

If you reach page 2 of this discussion, then you'll find this pic:
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Re: Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division

Post by Charles Trang » 19 Apr 2011 22:59

This photo was taken by SS-PK King in July 1944 in the vicinity of Caen (Normandy). It shows a bunch of LSSAH officers during an attack by Allied fighter bombers.

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Re: Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division

Post by PaulT » 12 Jul 2011 19:38

The picture 18mod.jpg from Askold back in March 2006 is Troch. He is the same officer (Troch) in the pic from Melnyk also in March 2006 showing the officer candidates from the officer school. Melnyk is correct that he is one of the few officers/soldiers from the Division to get the EK. ..... They were all heroes!

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Re: Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division

Post by Arto O » 05 Mar 2012 06:08

From a brochure of Roger J. Bender Publishing. Between the 14th Division and UNA?
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Re: Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division

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WGR.29 7.44 during battle of Brody

Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 05 Aug 2012 07:38

Kdr.WGR.29
SS-Ostubaf. Dern, Friedrich
Adj. Rgt.
SS-Hstuf. Kurkowski, Eberhard
OO
W-Ustuf. Ortynskyj, Lubomir
OO z.b.v.
W-Ustuf. Jaremytsch, Johann
Offz IVa
SS-Ostuf. Wolter, Rudolf
Abteilung Offz IVa
SS-Ustuf. Fichtner, Herbert
SS-Ustuf. Thissen, Johann
Offz IVb
W-Ustuf. Lubinetskyj, Wolodymyr Dr
Offz IVc
W-Hstuf. Mamtschur, Theodor Dr
Rgt. Pfarrer
W-Ustuf. Lewenetz, Michael
Kdr.Stb.Kp.
SS-Ostuf. Weis, Günter
1 батальон 29 полка при СС
Kdr.I./WGR.29
W-Hstuf. Brygidyr, Michael
OO,I./WGR.29
W-Ustuf. Opryschko, Petro
IVb,I./WGR.29
W-Ostuf. Prokopowytsch, Wolodymyr Dr
TFK,I./WGR.29
W-Ustuf. Bohatschewsky, Wladimir
Kdr.1./WGR.29
W-Ostuf. Wituschynskyj, Iwan
Kdr.2./WGR.29
W-Ustuf. Orlyk, Herman
Kdr.3./WGR.29
W-Ostuf. Lischtschynskyj, Mychailo
Kdr.4./WGR.29
W-Ustuf. Hladij, Stefan
2 батальон 29 полка при СС
Kdr.II./WGR.29
SS-Hstuf. Allerkamp, Wilhelm
Adj.II./WGR.29
SS-Ostuf. Horko, Waldemar
Kdr.5./WGR.29
W-Ostuf. Ruditschew, Serhij
Kdr.6./WGR.29
W-Ustuf. Witoschynskyj, Wolodymyr
Kdr.7./WGR.29
W-Ostuf. Danylyschyn, Dmytro
Kdr.8./WGR.29
W-Ustuf. Jaskewytsch, Sawelij
Kdr.13./WGR.29
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Kdr.14./WGR.29
W-Ostuf. Czuchzkewicz, Ostap

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Re: Ukrainian volunteers

Post by Rob - wssob2 » 05 Aug 2012 17:09

The subject of Ukrainian serving in other SS units is an entire topic by itself.
I think one of the challenges that we have here is definining exactly what makes somene a "Ukrainian"

How the SS defined "Ukrainian" in 1942 and how we define "Ukrainian" in 2012 aren't necessarily the same.

If I recall correctly, Gottlob Berger circa 1941, gave Himmler a memo outlining that he had roughly 80-odd "racially suitable" Ukrainians and 600-odd "non-racially-suitable" Ukrainians available for service in the W-SS.

Does anyone know what yardstick Berger used to define the "racially suitable" from the unsuitable? Was it volkish (i.e. volksdeutsche) background/genealogy?

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