Ukrainians in the Waffen-SS & Wehrmacht

[Melnyk]

Hi

the whole question about 'Ukrainian nationality' was a complete nonsense as far as the Germans were concerned. Himmler and his immediate underlings including Berger, tried (unsuccessfully) to fool everyone by saying that the only Ukrainians who could be utilised for the so called 'Galician Division' had to be 'Galicians' that is to say those who originated from the district known as 'Galicia'. Poles were prohibited from joining the unit.

That this was a nonsense is easily demonstrated. For example two brothers were born of the same Ukrainian parents in the same village in western Ukraine (ie what the Gemans called Galicia). The elder brother left home before the war and served in General Anders Polish Corps - as a Pole. The younger brother served in the Galician Division as a 'Galician' although in fact both were Ukrainians.

Next we have the nonesense of recuitment from 'Galicia'. Ukrainians from all over western Ukraine, eastern Ukraine and the other districts of the so called General Government enlisted for service. Many simply lied about their place of birth.

Lastly, Himmler's argument was that anyone who enlisted who lived in Galicia was a 'Galician' and therefor racially superior to those born outside that district. That's like me saying that Texans are not Americans but 'Texans' who are a distinct race all to themselves.

It's hard to believe that people with such a limited amount of sense could ever have been as successful as they were. Thank goodness the Brits put up a fight.

best wishes

Mike Melnyk

[Marcus]

A post was split off into a new thread entitled "My late father may have been in the Galicia Division".

/Marcus

[Marcus]

Several threads dealing with the Ukrainians serving with the Wehrmacht/Waffen-SS have been merged into this one for easier reference.

/Marcus

[Zulu]

The Forum of "Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division" i can not find. Anyone know if it is still or change of name?
Because someone asked me a question and I can't find it to respond to you.
Tks

[Marcus]

The Forum of "Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division" i can not find. Anyone know if it is still or change of name?
Because someone asked me a question and I can't find it to respond to you.
Tks

That thread is now part of this one but maybe you are thinking about this post: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1&t=204561?

/Marcus

[Zulu]

The Forum of "Photos of 14. SS Galicia Division" i can not find. Anyone know if it is still or change of name?
Because someone asked me a question and I can't find it to respond to you.
Tks

That thread is now part of this one but maybe you are thinking about this post: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1&t=204561?

/Marcus

Marcus:
That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot

[Zulu]

Some photos of my grandfather in England.

[Askold]

Great photos Zulu, thank you for sharing!

[Ljotrulf]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-War.html
Scotland Yard could not find sufficient (or any) evidence to charge never mind convict these men from the Galizien Division but Stephen Ankier continues to sling mud at these with the help of the British gutter press.

[Danylo]

Here is one picture I found. Original picture has the whole body but edited to to fit size requirements.

[Askold]

Hi Danylo, how do you know this fellow is Ukrainian?

[robwulfe]

Hello, I stumbled on this forum by accident. I was researching the 14th, as my Grandfather served with the 1st Galician/14th. He turned 96 yesterday. He has told me many stories about his time there, the battle of Brody, how they broke out. When they were sent to Slovenia?/Yugoslavia to fight Tito's partisans, and when he was wounded there.

I will see if I can scan some photos.

[Danylo]

Some photos I found in family collection.

[Danylo]

Some more. May be Rimini and/or Great Britain.

[Danylo]

Same person as the one I posted earlier in the SS uniform.