Seelöwe: Lets discuss:- German barges, sunk by fighters?

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Re: Seelöwe: Lets discuss:- German barges, sunk by fighters?

Postby Knouterer » 16 Jul 2017 13:59

For comparison with the sFH 18 carriage, here's a picture of a 10.5 cm K 18, a corps artillery weapon. Same carriage, but with solid rubber wheels for motor traction, meaning it could travel in one piece. The barrel is retracted for travelling; with its tractor (SdKfz 7 halftrack) this gun would take up about 18 m of space in a barge I think, clearly a lot less than a 15 cm howitzer in two loads with 12 horses.
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Re: Seelöwe: Lets discuss:- German barges, sunk by fighters?

Postby Knouterer » 16 Jul 2017 14:13

Just to be comprehensive, a couple of pictures showing the Rohrwagen (also called Rohrkarren) for transporting the 15 cm barrel.
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Re: Seelöwe: Lets discuss:- German barges, sunk by fighters?

Postby Knouterer » 16 Jul 2017 17:48

sitalkes wrote:Seems strange that the German, and French 75mm guns didn't have interchangeable ammunition, since they were basically the same gun. If the Germans managed to capture some of the British artillery positions, they might find some more ammunition there, as the British were also using American produced French 75mm guns


No, they were different. The Germans had fitted their remaining 77 mm FK 16 guns with new 75 mm barrels in the early 1930s. Ammunition was of the separate loading type, allowing changes of the propellant charge (except for AP rounds). The French 75 mm M1897 fired fixed rounds, with a case length of 350 mm.

The Belgians had received, as war reparations or captured guns, a number of FK 16 guns and lFH16 howitzers (same carriage) which were fitted with 75 mm barrels by the firm of Cockerill. Ammunition for these guns had a case length of 279 mm and was not interchangeable with either German or French 75 mm ammo. I believe the picture in Schenk's book shows one of these guns.

The Germans had also captured a number of old pre-WWI 75 mm Krupp guns (and copies) from various nations, which fired a 75 x 227 mm round, different yet again.
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Re: Seelöwe: Lets discuss:- German barges, sunk by fighters?

Postby sitalkes » 17 Jul 2017 00:40

interesting, what a mess!


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