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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by henryk » 07 Feb 2010 19:45

The aircraft was part of 205 Group, Royal Air Force (one of 178 Squadron Liberators) supplying the Jewish insurgents in Warsaw from their bases in Italy.
It was supplying the Warsaw Uprising: 1 Aug - 2 Oct 1944, not the Jewish Uprising: Warsaw Ghetto Uprising: 19 Apr-16 May 1943.

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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by grassi » 14 Feb 2010 13:17

Yes, I think this is wrong.

The flyers should rest somewhere here - at the Cmentarz Wojskowy, the Military Cemetery.
(And yes, there is some odd red colour in the picture - my camera broke...).

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Post by grassi » 14 Feb 2010 14:00

Krakov/Poland: In the background a memorial for Katyn, at the foot of the Wawel.

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Post by grassi » 14 Feb 2010 23:56

A memorial plaque for two Polish generals, somewhere in Krakov/Poland.

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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by grassi » 16 Feb 2010 23:47

A memorial plaque in Krakov/Poland at the Wawel.
Maybe some is so kind to translate the text, please?

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Post by henryk » 17 Feb 2010 21:45

Monument
of Tadeusz Kościuszko
Destroyed
by the Nazis
in 1940
Reconstructed
by the Community
of the City of Dresden
in 1960.

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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by grassi » 18 Feb 2010 15:44

Thank you.

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Post by grassi » 19 Feb 2010 00:56

It should be this monument the plaque refers to:


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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by grassi » 19 Feb 2010 01:02

This photo was taken at the Lord's ArK (Arka Pana) in Nowa Huta/Krakov/Poland.
It shows a memorial for inhabitants of the village Bien´czyce who fell in WW II.

Further information can be found in:
Kordaszewski, Marian, "Arche des Herrn". Geschichte und Symbolik, Krakau 3. Auflage 2007, p. 89.
or at
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1431655

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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by GermanHistorian » 03 May 2010 15:40

grassi wrote:This is a cut out from the Völkische Beobachter, March 25th 1943.
It shows the Stalingrad-monument made by Ernst Paul Hinckeldey in the exhibition of the Zeughaus in Berlin.

This leads me to two questions:
1) Does the monument still exist?
2) When were the earliest German war memorials for WWII erected?
1943 seems to be quite early, the great majority must have been erected some years after 1945.

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Grassi,
I'm sorry I do not have the full answers to your questions.

I am a graduate student and I am writing an article for publication on the cultural representation of death in the Third Reich during wartime. I found this same image in my research in the VB but it was a very poor copy. I tried to use this one you have posted but it was too small and lost focus when I made it larger. I was wondering if you could email me a higher resolution copy of this one. I would greatly appreciate it.

As for the early date on this monument, part of my argument in my paper is that comemmorating death and sacrifice became a means of social mobilization. In short the Reich memorialized the image of Stalingrad as an icon of ideological sacrifice. By appealing to the sentiments of the bereaved, the Reich aimed to mobilize increased patriotism and fanaticism.

Please let me know via this forum or by email if you can send me a better copy of this image. I would greatly appreciate it.

Robert

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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by grassi » 08 May 2010 23:00

@ Robert,
send me your e-mail-adresse. I'll try to help you, but this will take some time. In the meanwhile you can try to get the Völkische Beobachter, March 25th 1943. It should be there.

Your hypothesis is interesting. I think there are many reason for erecting such memorials.
As far as I know it was not allowed or at least not very easy to publish pictures of the dead German soldiers. So there had to be another un lieu de mémoire, like a Denkmal.

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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by Bernard Law Montgomery » 01 Jul 2010 12:54

Humble monument for the jews, killed by germans in Lithuania,in 1941.

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Post by Hanski » 29 Jul 2010 06:56

This monument of the Arctic convoys has been erected onto the isle of Hoy in the Orkney islands, which used to form a part of the Scapa Flow naval base.

The text is self-explanatory. The destination country of the convoys flew a different flag in those days, though.
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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by henryk » 29 Jul 2010 19:32

Re: Arctic Convoys Monument
A lot of flags missing, eg Norwegian. Another example of the UK not recognizing valuable contributions made by other nations.

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Re: WW2 monuments

Post by JamesL » 24 Oct 2010 21:11

Liberation Monument, Liberty State Park, NJ, USA
http://www.libertystatepark.com/liberati.htm


Katyn Memorial, Jersey City, NJ, USA
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23021987@N06/3157388720/

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