#18
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by sitalkes » 16 Apr 2018, 07:27
1. What sort of Sealion are you referring to? There seem to be a lot of assumptions being made. Principally, when do you see the invasion happening and what is the result of the Battle of Britain?
2. Factors to compere:
a. attackers
i. naval fire support,
ii. aerial fire support,
iii. Artillery support
iv. rate of cross beach movement,
v. Air superiority yes/no
vi. Naval superiority yes/no
vii. Special equipment
viii. Planning time density,
ix. Doctrine
x. Training
xi. Organisation
xii. Experience
xiii. Motivation/troop quality
xiv. Numbers
xv. density
xvi. Equipment
xvii. Surprise – strategic/tactical, yes/no
xviii. Diversions
xix. Availability of supplies and replacements and how quickly they can land
xx. Length of supply lines
b. defenders,
i. aerial fire support,
ii. Artillery support
iii. fortifications,
iv. Air superiority yes/no local or air supremacy?
v. Naval superiority yes/no
vi. Special equipment
vii. Planning time,
viii. Doctrine
ix. Training
x. Organisation
xi. Experience
xii. Numbers
xiii. Motivation/troop quality
xiv. Density
xv. Equipment
xvi. Availability of reinforcements and travel time to beaches; Strategic concerns likely to draw them away or delay them
xvii. Availability of supplies and replacements and how quickly they can arrive
xviii. Distance to supply base and their capital/ultimate objective of invasion
c. Other factors
i. terrain, offshore obstacles (shoals etc)
ii. weather, tides, currents, number of hours of daylight.
iii. Length of landing area
3. Dieppe was a success on the beaches on the flanks of the ports. This is what the Germans planned to do, attack the beaches frontally not the ports.
4. The British fortifications, such as they were, were tested as being immune to rifle calibre ammunition. but were penetrated by 20mm shells. The Germans had lots of 20mm and 37mm guns - for which I imagine fire control etc is not so important due to their high rate of fire. Included in the first wave were over 300 armoured vehicles plus artillery, and anti-aircraft guns. The second wave included many more and, for the first time, a regiment (72 launchers) of nebelwerfers. The Germans made 30 auxiliary gunboat conversions, armed with warship and AA guns, to provide fire support on the beaches. Most barges had a 75mm field gun mounted at the front and/or an AA gun mounted at the rear. There were also 185 escorts and 47 Siebel/Herbert ferries with similar or heavier armament plus hundreds of smaller boats armed with machine guns. On Omaha beach it was destroyers coming very close to the beach that provided the most effective gunfire support, not the battleships and cruisers, so it is likely that the sort of naval gunfire support available would have had some effect.
5. The Germans had their act together when it came to operating in a combined arms situation and that included the use of radios, for which they did a lot more training and were better equipped than the British. The commander of invasion convoy ‘D’ had what was possibly the world’s first purpose built HQ ship, the tender Hela. The commander of convoy C shared his ship with the commander of VII Corps, whose troops he was carrying.
6.
2700 tons a day were needed for the 9 divisions in the first wave (including the equivalent of a panzer division making up the difference of six Fallschirmjäger, Jäger, and Mountain divisions which were smaller than normal divisions, with one missing a regiment). The Fallschirmjäger division and an air landed division were to arrive by air and would probably be mostly supplied by air. If air superiority was available then other troops could be air-supplied to some extent, too. They also sourced a lot of their supplies locally and were to bring two weeks’ rations with them in the first wave . There were about 26 miles of beaches suitable for landings in the invasion area. Bad weather only occurred on five days between September 19 and October 20 1940, so the beaches would have been viable supply sources. According to British calculations, a total of 10,400- 13,600 tons could be landed daily over that length of beaches using barges. The beach estimate is based on having four barges per mile and each barge unloading 100 tons per day (each barge could carry 600 tons).
The British troops were no better motivated than all the other troops defending their homelands that had been defeated by the Germans. Even the Ost troops defending Omaha beach fought because an NCO had a gun at their back, until they ran out of ammunition. What is more important is their training, organisation, equipment, doctrine, experience, and leadership, all of which were inferior to that of the Germans. The Germans also planned for their plan to be disrupted in the heat of battle and trained their troops that way, whereas the British did not.