British press on W-SS?

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British press on W-SS?

Post by Westphalia1812 » 10 Mar 2023 19:25

I've come across an interesting section in the war diary of OB.West:
Staubwasser reports on English radio reports ranting that English forces are not advancing. Also, the enemy reports that 30% SS are deployed as opposed to the east where only 15% SS are deployed. SS seems to be the most feared. The enemy, however, has not yet brought the main force to fruition.
Has anyone ever come across any British press reports stating this?
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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Michael Kenny » 10 Mar 2023 23:44

What is the date of this document?
I Have not yet found specific mention of the SS or them being 'feared'. This is how The Times reported the German view on Normandy
June 9 1944 Times.jpg
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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Michael Kenny » 11 Mar 2023 00:07

This is how the Germans were told how the V1 was performing. From the POW reports it seems most soldiers believed it.
June 19 V1 Times.jpg
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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Westphalia1812 » 11 Mar 2023 02:16

Michael Kenny wrote:
10 Mar 2023 23:44
What is the date of this document?
26.07.44.

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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Westphalia1812 » 11 Mar 2023 02:18

Michael Kenny wrote:
10 Mar 2023 23:44

I Have not yet found specific mention of the SS or them being 'feared'. This is how The Times reported the German view on Normandy

I also found it very strange. Especially because I doubt the British press would downplay the efforts of CW forces. Thank you for providing these issues. Is there an archive for these articles?

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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Aber » 11 Mar 2023 20:18

Just wondering whether this was a Fortitude broadcast:
Staubwasser reports on English radio reports ranting that English forces are not advancing. ... The enemy, however, has not yet brought the main force to fruition.
Wiki on post invasion plan
the Normandy beachhead was struggling to succeed and so Eisenhower had taken elements of FUSAG to reinforce its efforts

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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Michael Kenny » 11 Mar 2023 20:55

Westphalia1812 wrote:
10 Mar 2023 19:25

Staubwasser reports on English radio reports ranting that English forces are not advancing.
I thought this would be a complete invention but checking The Times reporting found (so far)2 June/July articles that in passing criticise 'the British' for not exploiting breakthroughs.
July 22 Times vvg (1).jpg
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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Westphalia1812 » 11 Mar 2023 23:06

Aber wrote:
11 Mar 2023 20:18
Just wondering whether this was a Fortitude broadcast:
Staubwasser reports on English radio reports ranting that English forces are not advancing. ... The enemy, however, has not yet brought the main force to fruition.
Now you mention it that makes a lot of sense! Haven't thought about this before...

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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Westphalia1812 » 11 Mar 2023 23:15

Michael Kenny wrote:
11 Mar 2023 20:55
Westphalia1812 wrote:
10 Mar 2023 19:25

Staubwasser reports on English radio reports ranting that English forces are not advancing.
I thought this would be a complete invention but checking The Times reporting found (so far)2 June/July articles that in passing criticise 'the British' for not exploiting breakthroughs.

July 22 Times vvg (1).jpgJuly 22 Times vvg (2).jpg
Seems we're getting closer...Thanks for digging that up. I would be surprised, though, if any article actually mentions the SS being feared.

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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Michael Kenny » 12 Mar 2023 01:44

Is this the birth of the 'our panzers can knock out 10 of your tanks but you always have 11' myth?

Times, June 21st 1944.
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Re: British press on W-SS?

Post by Michael Kenny » 12 Mar 2023 01:52

It seems the obvious was 'obvious' very early on.
Times, June 22 1944
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