Flak Units during GOODWOOD

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Re: Flak Units during GOODWOOD

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 15 Nov 2023 20:05

Michael Kenny wrote:
14 Nov 2023 22:06
The author thinks it was Becker's guns that did in the Tigers!
And no doubt the RAF say that some Typhoons did it!

Is there any photograph evidence for the losses of von Rosen's Tiger's - anything to show where they were hit (rear, side, front)?

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Re: Flak Units during GOODWOOD

Post by Michael Kenny » 15 Nov 2023 20:17

Tom from Cornwall wrote:
15 Nov 2023 20:05


Is there any photograph evidence for the losses of von Rosen's Tiger's - anything to show where they were hit (rear, side, front)?

None at all. However given they managed to tow out over 20 disabled Tigers it is most likely they were recovered. Given the position it is highly unlikely all the photographers would miss them
I am of the opinion that a lot of 'missing' Tiger wrecks are not actually unrecorded but exist if the form of 'unknown' wrecks. That is we have them but just don't know we have them. Just yesterday I was shown a previously unknown (to me) SS 102 wreck and that shows there is still much to be discovered.

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Re: Flak Units during GOODWOOD

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 15 Nov 2023 21:09

Michael Kenny wrote:
15 Nov 2023 20:17
None at all. However given they managed to tow out over 20 disabled Tigers it is most likely they were recovered. Given the position it is highly unlikely all the photographers would miss them
I am of the opinion that a lot of 'missing' Tiger wrecks are not actually unrecorded but exist if the form of 'unknown' wrecks. That is we have them but just don't know we have them. Just yesterday I was shown a previously unknown (to me) SS 102 wreck and that shows there is still much to be discovered.
Thanks, I did note from the tables in Tigers in Normandy that 503 Bn suffered heavy permanent losses after Goodwood and then seems to have lugged around plenty of unserviceable Tigers without actually restoring many to serviceability.

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Re: Flak Units during GOODWOOD

Post by Westphalia1812 » 16 Nov 2023 21:33

Tom from Cornwall wrote:
15 Nov 2023 21:09
Michael Kenny wrote:
15 Nov 2023 20:17
None at all. However given they managed to tow out over 20 disabled Tigers it is most likely they were recovered. Given the position it is highly unlikely all the photographers would miss them
I am of the opinion that a lot of 'missing' Tiger wrecks are not actually unrecorded but exist if the form of 'unknown' wrecks. That is we have them but just don't know we have them. Just yesterday I was shown a previously unknown (to me) SS 102 wreck and that shows there is still much to be discovered.
Thanks, I did note from the tables in Tigers in Normandy that 503 Bn suffered heavy permanent losses after Goodwood and then seems to have lugged around plenty of unserviceable Tigers without actually restoring many to serviceability.

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Tom
'Long term repair' :wink:

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Re: Flak Units during GOODWOOD

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 17 Nov 2023 20:25

Michael Kenny wrote:
15 Nov 2023 20:17
and that shows there is still much to be discovered.
Michael,

I expect these pictures have been seen before but on the off chance that they are new I thought I'd post here. They are from the ORB annex of 35 Wing RAF - I copied the September 1944 section but it was 10 years ago so not sure if this page was from that date or earlier.
AIR26-54 - 35 Wing RAF - photo.png
Sorry about the quality, I was very new to photographing in the archives.

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Tom
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Re: Flak Units during GOODWOOD

Post by Michael Kenny » 17 Nov 2023 21:34

Some appear to be Rouen but I have never seen that source before. Difficult to say for sure but I don't think the photos have been published. The two top corner photos look very interesting

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Re: Flak Units during GOODWOOD

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 18 Nov 2023 12:21

Michael Kenny wrote:
17 Nov 2023 21:34
Difficult to say for sure but I don't think the photos have been published. The two top corner photos look very interesting
Hi Michael,

No problem, next time I go to Kew I'll order that file up again and see if I can get better copies.

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Tom

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