Flight time to Normandy

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Flight time to Normandy

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Post by Larso » 12 Dec 2004, 14:13

Sorry if this has been asked before but how long did it take paratroopers destined for Normandy to fly there? I know it would depend on where their airfields were and probably some 'forming up' but an average would be usefull.

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Post by Dessek Warrior » 12 Dec 2004, 15:07

Around 3 hours, according to Band of Brothers. The planes of the 506th PIR took off on 22.00hrs from England to drop its paratroopers around 01.00hrs in Normandy.


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Post by Larso » 13 Dec 2004, 03:35

Thanks for that. In fact the question was put to me by a friend as we were watching Band of Brothers.

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Post by Barrett » 14 Dec 2004, 06:40

The reason for the seemingly inordinate flight time across the 100 miles or so to Normandy was difficulty in organzing hundreds of C-47s and gliders at night, in occasionally spotty weather, on a scale that had never been attempted before. Because each airborne division had specific drop/landing zones, the respective troop carrier groups had to form up and take briefed routes to the DZs. Also remember that it was the first combat mission for the large majority of TC crews.

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Post by red devil » 16 Dec 2004, 04:03

Dessek Warrior wrote:Around 3 hours, according to Band of Brothers. The planes of the 506th PIR took off on 22.00hrs from England to drop its paratroopers around 01.00hrs in Normandy.
Are you accounting for the hours time difference? I would have thought, given distances, 2 hours max for flight.

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Post by Volklin » 16 Dec 2004, 05:49

wow... sitting there 2-3 hours, i can imagine the butterflies having a war of their own in your stomach.

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Post by tonyh » 16 Dec 2004, 18:53

I've just been for a job interview and the butterflies were bad enough for that. But I have absolutely no concept of the feeling I would experience throwing myself out of an airplane at night into enemy territory.

It must have been bloody awful.

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Post by red devil » 16 Dec 2004, 21:41

I cannot imagine anyone at all wanting to jump out of a serviceable aircraft!!

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Post by Christian W. » 16 Dec 2004, 22:19

With all that Flak I seriusly wouldnt want to jump.....but I would anyway.

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Post by Volklin » 17 Dec 2004, 00:51

because you'd die anyway... the losses on planes was a lot, flak could have got you inside

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Post by Christian W. » 17 Dec 2004, 01:08

True. The plane was not safe place. It was more safer to jump than stay inside a plane that was a big target for AA-gunners.

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Post by Dessek Warrior » 17 Dec 2004, 22:28

red devil wrote:
Dessek Warrior wrote:Around 3 hours, according to Band of Brothers. The planes of the 506th PIR took off on 22.00hrs from England to drop its paratroopers around 01.00hrs in Normandy.
Are you accounting for the hours time difference? I would have thought, given distances, 2 hours max for flight.
Good point. As far as I know the planners for D-Day used double daylight saving time; I don't know how large the time difference would be. On the other hand, most of the operational planning of the Invasion was done using Normandy local time.

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Post by Andy H » 18 Dec 2004, 17:33

Volume 1 of the excellent D-Day Then & Now gives superb coverage of the airborne logistics and invasion drop.

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Post by CHRISCHA » 20 Dec 2004, 20:29

Barrett wrote:The reason for the seemingly inordinate flight time across the 100 miles or so to Normandy was difficulty in organzing hundreds of C-47s and gliders at night, in occasionally spotty weather, on a scale that had never been attempted before. Because each airborne division had specific drop/landing zones, the respective troop carrier groups had to form up and take briefed routes to the DZs. Also remember that it was the first combat mission for the large majority of TC crews.
This is an important point to the question. The planes would be circling and forming up during the three hours. As you point out in the question, it really does depend from where they flew from.

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Post by red devil » 06 Jan 2005, 00:37

Christian W. wrote:True. The plane was not safe place. It was more safer to jump than stay inside a plane that was a big target for AA-gunners.
My reference to jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft is an British Army joke when making fun of modern day paratroopers.

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