How did the war effect your family

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Post by Aufklarung » 19 Sep 2002 01:57

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True. The commonwealth had to lay out some land after the cash ran out. Labrador and Ancension I. were some of the new areas under US control. I'm sure there were more. I too have no problem with that. Capitolism gives everyone incentive to do better. :lol:

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Post by Matt » 19 Sep 2002 12:35

Hello Desert Fox

My grandfather enlisted in Fremantle, so it is very unlikely they came across each other. Would have been a coincidence if they had been in the same unit, it is rare I come across anyone with relatives who served in WW1 - especially Gallipoli. Such a large proportion of eligible males served (40%) I do not understand how so few people today have any connection - perhaps many simply did not have families?
I did not get the chance to meet either of my Grandfathers, they both passed before my birth. Their health was affected by their wounds, and shortened their lives.

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Post by The Desert Fox » 22 Sep 2002 11:09

Johan Elisson wrote:My grand-grand father (my mother's mother's father) fought in the Wehrmacht. He was present in the battle of Stalingrad as a Kraftfahrer. He was sent to a prison camp and tried to escape but was re-captured. He tried a second time with some friends, he succeded, but his friends did not. He travelled all the way back to the front by sneaking, and hanging under railway cars. He got the Iron Cross for that. He died this spring, before I got a chance to meet him. :cry:

/Johan


To survive what he did, no one could chalenge the validity of his award Johan. Its a damn pity you did not get a chance to speak with him. I think it would have been a very valuable experience.

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Post by The Desert Fox » 22 Sep 2002 11:14

Matt wrote:Hello Desert Fox

My grandfather enlisted in Fremantle, so it is very unlikely they came across each other. Would have been a coincidence if they had been in the same unit, it is rare I come across anyone with relatives who served in WW1 - especially Gallipoli. Such a large proportion of eligible males served (40%) I do not understand how so few people today have any connection - perhaps many simply did not have families?
I did not get the chance to meet either of my Grandfathers, they both passed before my birth. Their health was affected by their wounds, and shortened their lives.

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Matt


I guess many of the poor sods got killed before they could have families. Having survived Gallopoli they would then have had to survive another three years of war.

Yeah it would be very ironic if they did serve in same unit. I will try and find that damn website I wrote about earlier. Once I find it and can recall what unit my decendent was with, and you could check out your great grandfathers service record.

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Post by Johan Elisson » 22 Sep 2002 12:10

Its a damn pity you did not get a chance to speak with him. I think it would have been a very valuable experience.


Mmmm... I'll talk about him with my grandmother instead and find out more about it. About the Iron Cross, its gone in some strange way. Either it has been forgotten on an attic somewhere or something like that, or someone has taken it. :x One of my goals in life is to find it, and keep it.

/Johan

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Post by HaEn » 22 Sep 2002 16:44

Let's see if I can put this in few words. Most of my German family lost everything they had; sons, homes etc. Many of my Jewish family lost everything they had, including their lives; Some of my other Dutch family fought with the Princess Irene Brigade on the Allied side, and some of them fought with a variety of units in the Waffen SS. Then there were those who were up to their neck in the resistance, and others who were up to their neck into get what you can while the getting is good. I guess I am the only normal :D one. HN.

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Post by M. Schroeder » 22 Sep 2002 20:31

My step mothers uncle died in Dachau from Pneunomia, he was part of the Norwegian resistance.

My Grandfather on my moms side landed in Normandy and lived to tell about it.

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Post by The Desert Fox » 23 Sep 2002 13:44

Johan Elisson wrote:
Its a damn pity you did not get a chance to speak with him. I think it would have been a very valuable experience.


Mmmm... I'll talk about him with my grandmother instead and find out more about it. About the Iron Cross, its gone in some strange way. Either it has been forgotten on an attic somewhere or something like that, or someone has taken it. :x One of my goals in life is to find it, and keep it.
/Johan


If you find out any more about your grandfather story I would defintely be interested in hearing it. Hell it would be a great tale for a book or movie. Why not try also to contact what ever government department in Germany may have surviving records of war service and sitation maybe for his award. We have Govt departments in Australia where such records maybe found, I assume Germany would have somthing similiar.

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Post by TiKi » 23 Sep 2002 14:20

My greatgranduncle was overrolled on the easternfront by an T-34!
He stayed in a foxhole and the tank makes a 360 degree turn :cry:

That happened very often when the tankcrew see such foxholes!


My greatgrandparents had familyhouse with 8 parties in it!!
Completely destroyed after bomberattacks at nuremberg!!!!!!!

But my familiy managed to built it up again after the war!!!

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Post by Marcus_Sweden » 03 Oct 2002 21:30

not much on my side, my gf's grandfather vounteered and went to Finland to fight.

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Post by Mark V » 05 Oct 2002 17:29

charlie don't surf wrote:My grandfathers twin brother made concrete tank obstacles in finland.



Better late than never. :D

Thank you for your help.

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Post by Daniel L » 05 Oct 2002 17:40

Actually, when I come to think of it, I'm not sure if it the obstacles that he made were of concrete. I get a warm feeling when you write that you are grateful, even if I can't take any credit for myself, just to know that you feel this...

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Post by Andy H » 07 Oct 2002 16:40

father served on Destroyers and Cruisers ( 3 planes to his credit (2 German 7 1 Jap)).

Uncle fought in N.Africa and Western Europe within an Armoured Division, and his advanced elements were the first into a Concentration camp from the British Army-He never spoke about it, only to my father.

Another relative fought as an AA Gunner with the RA.

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Post by Victor » 07 Oct 2002 20:17

I accidently found more details about my grandfathers' brother in the Navy. He was a naval officer but was assigned to the seaplane flotilla as an observer.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 07 Oct 2002 21:37

Both my grandfathers took part the wars. From my fathers side: Winter War at artillery training centre, Continuation War at triple A. His unit was used to protect several airbases. From my mothers side. first war at infantry, the second at home defence duties. Other distant relatives: one died in an flight accident with Myrsky MY-4 locally built fighter. He was totally burnt, and at his funeral there was a "do not open" note at the coffin. His father however wanted to comb his hair for the last time. He opened and closed the coffin and never told anybody what he saw.
Annother relative spend his war at a concentration camp at Australia, for he had served,during the WWI, at German army at Jaeger Battalion 27.
Our farm during the Continuation War, was quite international place: we hosted refugees from Ingermanlad (around St. Petersburg: soviet citicens,but finnish nationality), soviet POW:s and swedish volunteers.

JT

I also want to thank Charlie`s relative and all others who helped us to stay independent. Even the price was high.

P.S. Charlie, if your grandfathers brother worked with concrete then he made bunkers, if with AT-obstacles, then he worked with granite.
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