Barbarossa, Delay: Balkans or Rain

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Re: Barbarossa, Delay: Balkans or Rain

Post by Aida1 » 25 Mar 2021 20:47

TheMarcksPlan wrote:
23 Jan 2021 16:37
Max Payload wrote:He was not averse to expressing his own opinions, and his diary speaks for itself
I was addressing his postwar mythmaking in that comment, not his diary. There's enough in the diary to have justified letting Stalin or Tito execute him.

But postwar his mythmaking was more influential than the diary. That Nazi PoS actually got a medal from my country - only man to be decorated by Hitler and (via proxy) a U.S. president.
This retoric shows your bias which also affects your credibility when making statements about Halder. :lol:

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Re: Barbarossa, Delay: Balkans or Rain

Post by TheMarcksPlan » 15 Apr 2021 19:46

Aida1 wrote:
25 Mar 2021 20:47

This retoric shows your bias which also affects your credibility when making statements about Halder. :lol:
Good. I am biased against Halder and all his cronies as well. Should have been hanged.
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"The whole question of whether we win or lose the war depends on the Russians." - FDR, June 1942

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Re: Barbarossa, Delay: Balkans or Rain

Post by Aida1 » 15 Apr 2021 20:25

TheMarcksPlan wrote:
15 Apr 2021 19:46
Aida1 wrote:
25 Mar 2021 20:47

This retoric shows your bias which also affects your credibility when making statements about Halder. :lol:
Good. I am biased against Halder and all his cronies as well. Should have been hanged.
Interesting to show that 'erudite' individuals have a nasty streak too. :lol:

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Re: Barbarossa, Delay: Balkans or Rain

Post by historygeek2021 » 13 Jan 2022 06:24

Diary entry of Gerhard Engel, Hitler's army adjutant, March 21, 1941:
F. is very unhappy and worried about the situation in the Balkans. Our imminent intervention has made him throw his entire conception out of the window; the great objectives have all had to be put back, and it is now impossible to launch the attack on the Soviet Union in the second half of May. By themselves a couple of weeks earlier or later are not necessarily so bad, but we do not want to be surprised by the Russian winter. The earliest date is now the end of June, and one never knows when the summer will come to an end.

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Re: Barbarossa, Delay: Balkans or Rain

Post by TheMarcksPlan » 13 Jan 2022 19:28

historygeek2021 wrote:
13 Jan 2022 06:24
Diary entry of Gerhard Engel, Hitler's army adjutant, March 21, 1941:
F. is very unhappy and worried about the situation in the Balkans. Our imminent intervention has made him throw his entire conception out of the window; the great objectives have all had to be put back, and it is now impossible to launch the attack on the Soviet Union in the second half of May. By themselves a couple of weeks earlier or later are not necessarily so bad, but we do not want to be surprised by the Russian winter. The earliest date is now the end of June, and one never knows when the summer will come to an end.
Thanks, good quote. It's instructive to compare Hitler's concerns with Halder's nonchalance about the delay. Of the two radical right wing organizations operating in Germany at that time - Nazi party and the Wehrmacht - the latter behaved more in line with racist expectations of an easy victory.
https://medium.com/counterfactualww2
"The whole question of whether we win or lose the war depends on the Russians." - FDR, June 1942

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