The battles in Pomorania 1945

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The battles in Pomorania 1945

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 28 Nov 2006 09:10

Dear gentlemen , as there is still missing a general topic regarding these battles ( and for Danzig , Westpreußen und Ostpreußen those discussions have been very productive in my opinion ) I want to open a "fitting" topic . As many people here and on Feldgrau know , those battles are the "mein Point" of my research , but even after years of digging I still have some "white spots" . I will begin with the involvement of the Luftwaffe & Flak . In Erich Murawskis "Die Eroberung Pommerns durch die Rote Armee" we find a quite usable chapter regarding the support given by the Luftwaffe , but the involvement of the Flak , especially in the ground fights is nearly uncovered . Thats why I want to start to collect which Flak-Units were involved in Pomorania in 1945 !

A document of AOK 11 states for the 5th February 1945 the following (rather short) info :
13.Flakbrigade , bestehend aus

FlakRgt.6 (mot.) , 65 Bttr.
FlakRgt. 21 (mot.) 55 Bttr.
Zuführung aus Kurland 65 Bttr.
Our dear Endzeit Jan provided these units :
Flak-Div.27 beim Oder-Korps (zugleich Armeeflakführer der 11.Armee) mit:
Flak-Reg.145-Abt.377, 901
Flak-Reg.138-Abt.229, 12200
Flak-Brig.6 Stettin
Who could be able to clear this up ??

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Post by Ingsoc75 » 28 Nov 2006 15:05

Slightly off topic but it reminds me of this diorama work:

The Last Panther in Pomerania

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 09 Jan 2007 11:32

Well , according to Husemanns divisional Chronik of 4th SS-PolPzGrenDiv . SS-PolPzGrenRgt.7 secured the Line from Stolp to Stolpmünde in March 1945 as they received order to retreat to Lauenburg . Now my question is if anybody knows the exact route of this Rgt. ! My aunt told me that a large military unit moved from the direction of Stolpmünde though Wobesde in eastern direction at those days .

Well , is it possible that the Rgt. moved via Gambin and Glowitz to its destination ? Other possible units I still have not found ...

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Post by beaviso » 09 Jan 2007 14:46

Jan-Hendrik,

That might have been the retreating crew of Stolpmuende, consisting mostly of Luftwaffe soldiers (Flak Schule). You probably remember the memoirs of a HG soldier retreating with them, along the coast east, to the Hela Peninsula? Unless they'd taken the very coastal route, there would have been big chance of passing thru Wobesde en-route Leba.

Have you checked 549.VGD and 31.VGD? I have an idea that at least some of their elements might have been in the area. When I'm back home I'll check the maps and drop you a PM.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 09 Jan 2007 15:19

Well , 549.VGD retreated to the West a few days earlier ( maybe I receive a bit archival material regarding this particular unit and our particular timeframe within the next time ) . Well about parts of 31.VGD in this area I have clearly nothing . Remain Luftwaffe ( the accont of this man of FsPzErsBrg. HG was posted by myself , and according to the map included in the article they took the northest route possible , along the coast on the small Nehrungen between Ostsee and Garder & Lebaer See ) and SS-PolPzGrenRgt.7. The problem is : I cannot ask my aunt anymore , she died a few years ago ( she was already married in 1945 ) ...

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Post by beaviso » 09 Jan 2007 23:51

Pls refer to Saft: There's a map showing the situation between March 6th and 12th - the 549.VGD is there!
Plus, p.461 mentions 2 coys from this division engaged in a coastal skirmish near Zarnowitz with Soviet troops advancing from Wittenberg (btw. this year I spent the New Year's Eve weekend in Wittenberg! :))

I've found Saft being several times, hmmm, not very accurate... There are also facts overemphasized by him (too much "Märtyrertum"), making his book not very reliable. But I can't deny the 549.VGD fighting in the area in question.


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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 10 Jan 2007 09:52

I can underline this , it is surely his weakest work :wink:

Sowowly I have only the Lagerkarte for Heeregruppe Weichsel for 1st March , but I can guarantee to you that the 549th in mid march already appeared far further west , they must have been brought in their way in the first Days of march . Their last appearence in the Kriegsgliederung of 2.Armee is dated for 1.3.45 , on 9.3.45 they did not appear anymore ...

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 28 Jan 2007 14:57

As Michal reminded me today :

It seems that Gürke and his Flak men were in the area of Groß Garde on 9./10.März 1945 , so mentioned in an account by Klaus Granzow ind "Die letzten Tage in Pommern" and by an eyewitness of this time from Groß Garde .

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Post by Qvist » 28 Jan 2007 15:24

RH2-332 contains a document detailing Flak-units handed over by OKL to the army. It lists for "Tirschstiegel-Stellung, Schneidemühl, Ketzestellung, Frankfurt, Küstrin, Stettin" 3 rgt.gruppen mit 11 s.Flak-Abt (bmot), 15. s.Flak-bttr. (bmot), 13 m. u. le. Flak-bttr. , 2 s.Flak-Abt (bmot) - total of 80 s.bttr. and 13 .bttr., of whom 25 s. and 4 le.bttr are listed as "eingetroffen". No date unfortuantely, but I should think from the other content of the file late February.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 09 Feb 2007 11:27

I will add a few Flak units that were involved in the fightings in the Pyritz soon ...

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 04 Sep 2007 14:52

I found this interesting document on the losses of HGr. Weichsel in the annex of

Gerd Wagner Die 9.Fallschirmjägerdivision im Kampf um Pommern, Mark Brandenburg und Berlin :

http://i9.tinypic.com/5xdp0sx.jpg

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Post by Fallschirmjäger » 11 Sep 2007 01:25

Thanks Jan-Hendrik for that always like some info on the FJ,where was this info from thanks?.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 11 Sep 2007 07:23

As stated, Wagner's book on 9.FjD...

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Post by Qvist » 11 Sep 2007 11:32

I found this interesting document on the losses of HGr. Weichsel
Pure gold! Thanks for posting this.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 11 Sep 2007 11:44

Well, to speak openly, you are that men who should see this :D

Because I still one problem in interpretation of those number and thought you are the right person to help me out :wink:
a) vom 22.6.41- 28.2.45
how does the given numbers, f.e. for 25.PGD, fit? Are they taken for the timeframe after destruction in 1944?

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