The battles in Pomorania 1945

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Post by Fallschirmjäger » 13 Sep 2007 11:52

Jan-Hendrik wrote:As stated, Wagner's book on 9.FjD...

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Sorry,is this book only in german then and maybe out of print too now?,like any info or link to see more on it,thanks.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 13 Sep 2007 18:21

Yes, it is in german, from 1985, the chances to get it are rather low, myself just have a photocopied set, not the original...

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Post by Fallschirmjäger » 14 Sep 2007 07:06

Thanks for the info Jan-Hendrik,so you copied the whole book from a friend or library,i may need to do that too on some books at the library.I cant afford the books now,and this book has any good pictures of FJ or how many and any maps too?.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 14 Sep 2007 07:07

h few maps, pictures are mostly portraits of the mentioned Fallis.

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Post by Fallschirmjäger » 14 Sep 2007 11:08

Ok thanks for that info then,i may pm you about them.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 20 Sep 2007 16:30

Because I still one problem in interpretation of those number and thought you are the right person to help me out
Zitat:
a) vom 22.6.41- 28.2.45



how does the given numbers, f.e. for 25.PGD, fit? Are they taken for the timeframe after destruction in 1944?
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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 14 Nov 2007 15:38

*huhu*

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Post by Qvist » 14 Nov 2007 18:29

Who? Me? Sorry, I must have been dozing off. :) I had clean forgotten about this.

Answer: Good question. The numbers for the most part aren't that high, but then several of the divisions aren't that old. I haven't seen too many cumulative divisoinal figures from this late in the war, so I don't really have a strong sense of what to expect.

I would say a tentative yes, considering that the heading is after all not very ambiguous, but if the chance presented itself I would (ie, will) check against other and earlier divisional cumulative figures. I can see no good reason to think they would be post-Bagration. Firstly, the report clearly states 22.6.41, and secondly this is the normal format for cumulative reports. I have never seen a loss report who started 1.8.44 (or whatever cut-off point one would choose).

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Post by Qvist » 17 Nov 2007 16:20

Sowowly I have only the Lagerkarte for Heeregruppe Weichsel for 1st March , but I can guarantee to you that the 549th in mid march already appeared far further west , they must have been brought in their way in the first Days of march . Their last appearence in the Kriegsgliederung of 2.Armee is dated for 1.3.45 , on 9.3.45 they did not appear anymore ...


Possibly of little relevance, but by 7 april it is at least shown with PzAOK 3, still with meaningful strength, although few heavy weapons. It had 2 "Stark" btl, 4 "durschnittliche" and 1 "Schwach", a Durchscn. Pi.Btl., 2 batallions attached (1 "Stark" from the SS-Polizei-Div, 1 Durchschn. which is difficult to make out, but it may be "St.Pölten"). It however had no artillery at all, and only 14 PaK. FEB was durschn., and it had very poor mobility - just 30% in it equine elements, and 25% of its motorised. It was subordinated to XXIII AK.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 17 Nov 2007 18:32

Hi Qvist, the mysterious case of 549.VGD is already cleared up! In short, as I am on the leave already: the KTB of Division Denecke gave the needed hint! The 549.VGD in march at 3.PzArmee had nothing to do with the "original" one, it was the renamed Division Deneke, filled up with Genese! The staff of 549.VGD was in the area of Danzig till end of March and took htan, after the 549.VGD withdrawal from the Stettin Brigehead over from Deneke...a Schattendivision became a Einsatzdivision became a Volksgrenadierdivision---> one of the real highlights in my years of research! :D :D :D


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Post by Qvist » 18 Nov 2007 01:40

Hehe, and well deserved too! Thanks for this nugget of insight into a fairly muddy period.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 19 Nov 2007 09:30

Just thank god that a bit of paperwork of this Div. survived....interestingly Denecke did a rework of the existing KTB frame in the 50's

So you have in Freiburg both versions: the oringal and the "Bearbeitete" :D

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 09 Feb 2008 15:33

Qvist, I finally found the original 3 pages of the loss report of HGr.Weichsel, you will have mail this evening :D :D

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Re: The battles in Pomorania 1945

Post by Nicole S. » 11 Mar 2008 18:35

I am looking for material on the KavErsAbt. 100 after its acitivation in February 1945, when they were sent from Stolp to the battle area around Pryritz and Hochzeit. Does anyone knows if parts of them participated in the Battle of Schneidemühl?

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Re: The battles in Pomorania 1945

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 08 Sep 2008 11:28

I will begin with the involvement of the Luftwaffe & Flak . In Erich Murawskis "Die Eroberung Pommerns durch die Rote Armee" we find a quite usable chapter regarding the support given by the Luftwaffe , but the involvement of the Flak , especially in the ground fights is nearly uncovered . Thats why I want to start to collect which Flak-Units were involved in Pomorania in 1945 !
Order of 29.1.45:

- II.FlakKorps got subordinated under HGr. Weichsel
- 12.Flakdivision ordered "Zusammenarbeit mit AOK 2"
- 23.Flakdivisonj ordered "Zusammenarbeit mit AOK 9"
- 15.Flakbrigade ordered "Zusammenarbeit mit X.SS-AK"
Commanding General of II. Flakkorps, Gen.d.Flak.Art. Odebrecht is appointed as Heeresgruppenflakführer

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