Reconquest of Kiev 1943

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Re: Reconquest of Kiev 1943

Post by Art » 23 Feb 2019 15:07

Initial composition was as follows:

1 Guards Army (GS directive of 10 November 1943)
107 RC (328, 350, 351 RD)
74 RC (107, 183, 305 RD)
94 RC (99, 127, 271 RD)

18 Army (GS directive of 21 November 1943)
11 and 22 Rifle Corps HQ, 117 and 129 Guards, 24, 276, 304, 316, 317, 389, 395 Rifle Division

There was some swap of divisions between corps and armies as they entered action.
OOB of the 1 Ukrainian Front as of 1 January 1944 can be found here:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40101.html

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Re: Reconquest of Kiev 1943

Post by Art » 23 Feb 2019 17:04

Looks like many new documents were uploaded since the last time I've checked them. Now reports on armor strength of the 1 Ukrainian Front are available virtually on daily basis. For example, tanks and SP guns status as of 2 November 1943 (eve of the Kiev offensive operation)

https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=451064722
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=451064721

Totals by the 1 UF (1-2 November 1943):

10 KV on strength/6 operational
756/447 T-34
26/11 T-80
138/66 T-70
12/1 T-60
15/0 Mk-II Matilda
59/31 Mk-III Valentine
17/9 Mk-IV Churchill
1/1 Mk-V Valentine
46/26 Mk-IX Valentine
12/6 M4A2
4/1 M3 Stuart
59/27 SU-152
22/8 SU-122
32/31 SU-85
67/27 SU-76

Total 1306 tanks and SP guns/714 operational.

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Re: Reconquest of Kiev 1943

Post by Art » 23 Feb 2019 17:58

Tanks and SP gun strength as of 23 December 1943 (start of Zhitomir-Berdichev operation):
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=451064829
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=451064828

Total 1 UF:
43 KV on strength/35 operational
1390/938 T-34
92/35 T-70
14/3 T-60
5/0 Mk-II
118/24 Valentines
11/0 Mk-IV
6/0 M4A2
83/51 SU-152
17/13 SU-122
218/184 SU-85
107/52 SU-76

Total 2104 tanks and SP guns on strength, of them 1335 operational.

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Re: Reconquest of Kiev 1943

Post by FORBIN Yves » 24 Feb 2019 13:49

Very good, i find more exact dates in this book about 20 pages for this Battle
https://www.amazon.fr/chaudron-Tcherkas ... 2717860290

1st Guards Army arrive first Elts to Kiev 20 november and remains behind 38 Army in STAVKA reserve and used after for Zhitomir-Berdichex Offensive
except only 94RC engaged in defense 23 november

18th Army arrive 7 december with same restrictions than 1 GA only 11 RC engaged in defense 8 december near Teterev river

4 GTC and 25 TC arrive 5 december and engaged the 8

1 Tank Army arrive 5 december to Kiev first Elts HQ and 64 GT Bde

Germans units receive a certain number of Tanks/Stug replacements according Fire Brigades :
1 Pz Div receive in December 30 Pz V
7 Pz Div considered expert receive in November 20 Pz IV
8 Pz Div receive in November 20 Pz IV
19 Pz Div initialy in front of the Kanev-Bukrin Bridghead mtransfered and with 48 PZK 20/11 receive in December 4 Pz V
1 Pz Div SS receive in November/December 8 Tiger, 30 Pz V, 14 Stug !
2 Pz Div SS receive in November/December 5 Tiger, 10 Pz IV
Schwere Panzer-Abteilung 509 don't receive replacements

Also 202, 276, 239 surely receive Stugs in more 280th arrive in Rft full 31 Stug 13/11

3rd Pz in front of the Kanev-Bukrin Bridghead receive in November 27 Pz V

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Re: Reconquest of Kiev 1943

Post by FORBIN Yves » 26 Feb 2019 10:56

Transfer of the 3 Guards Tank Army from Kanev-Bukrin bridghead to Liutezh bridghead
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Re: Reconquest of Kiev 1943

Post by FORBIN Yves » 23 Apr 2019 15:21

Especialy for @ Art i catch a good chart with operationnals tanks/Su from 15/09 to 15/11 match with other infos i have and mainly appear independents units also
Numbers for the 31/10 worck for 03/11 beginning of the attack
https://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/00 ... 801179.jpg

Can we estimate a avaibility of 50 -60 % end 1943 ? in this case a unit which have 20 tanks have a total of ~ 30
8 GTC and 10 TC have suffered a lot in the Kanev - Bukrin bridghehead ! the 1 GCC is also low normaly 144 tanks/Su
And presumably 1831 Su Rgt arrive in Rft don't have 0 Su ready the 31/10.

Number here also https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3&start=15

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Re: Reconquest of Kiev 1943

Post by Art » 23 Apr 2019 19:37

8 Guards Tank Corps - 44 tanks and 1 SP gun on strength on 31.10.43
10 Tank Corps - 32 tanks and 19 SP guns on strength

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