German plan of the attack on Polish post office in Gdansk 39

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German plan of the attack on Polish post office in Gdansk 39

Post by Peter K » 22 Apr 2009 12:02

Scans of original documents of the German plan of the attack on Polish post office in Gdansk in 39 can be found here:

Source: "Free Forum of Gdansk" - scans posted by Roland:

Original document can be found in the Museum of Polish Post Office in Gdansk:

http://wolneforumgdansk.pl/viewtopic.ph ... c&start=30

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German casualties during the attack:

Source: USC Gdańsk - Wrzeszcz and USC Gdańsk - Śródmieście archives from 1939:

KIA:

SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eitel Hans Georg Neubert
SS-Rottenfuhrer Gunter Ladwig
SS-Rottenfuhrer Hans Teynor (or Taynor) - III platoon from 13. company of SS "Heimwehr-Danzig"
SS-Oberscharführer Eitel Neubert.
Policeman - Wachtmeister Wilhelm Senz

WIA Policemen:

Leutnant Heinrich
Hauptwachtmeister Muller
Hauptwachtmeister Gohr
Hauptwachtmeister Hahn
Oberwachtmeister Grunow
Hilfpolizisten Stalke
Hilfpolizisten Hemelt

Civilian casualties (the same source):

Killed:

Siegfrid Krebs (born 14.02.1922)
Marianna Reschke, maiden name Goździak (born 22.03.1911)

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Re: German plan of the attack on Polish post office in Gdansk 39

Post by Sid Guttridge » 22 Apr 2009 12:50

Hi Domen,

Very interesting.

If I remember rightly, only one German is usually quoted as killed. The Poles in the Post Office seem to have given a much better account of themselves than usually credited.

Many thanks,

Sid.

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Post by Richard Hargreaves » 22 Apr 2009 18:00

From the Epilogue of Blitzkrieg Unleashed:

The defenders of the Polish Post Office in Danzig were held in the city’s Viktoria School for almost a month, paraded sporadically in front of Nazi Party leaders and journalists. ‘Everywhere are characters you would not like to meet on your own in the dark,’ the Danziger Vorposten sneered. ‘You can already believe that each one of these civilian prisoners is capable of gouging the eyes out of wounded German soldiers, murdering Volksdeutsche, setting fire to homes and farms, raping women and girls and assaulting children.’ Albert Forster toured the school with his entourage, observing roll call. ‘Wait you pigs,’ he laughed. ‘You’ll get your just desserts!’ Thirty-eight men were tried by a military court at the end of September for being partisans. Most were executed by an SS firing squad on the same day that Adolf Hitler reviewed his victorious soldiers in Warsaw. The post office building was rebuilt in the late 1940s. Today it continues to handle the city’s mail, but it also houses a small museum dedicated to the men who defended it on 1 September, 1939.

The main source I used for the post office battle was Dieter Schenk's Post von Danzig which is a very detailed account of the fighting and aftermath, but it also gives a good insight into life in the city on September 1.

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Post by tigre » 23 Apr 2009 22:11

Hello guys :D; thanks for sharing it Domen and Richard at least two mortally wounded.....

On Sep 01 1939, at 03:30 hours all communications lines with Warsaw were broken and also the phone and the energy lines were cut, shortly before 05:00 hours sounded the first shots. Two assault groups belonging to the Danziger Schutzpolizei jumped off against the main entrance but were repelled with heavy machinegun fire, although the Germans managed to break through the entrance and briefly enter the building. The fight lasted only a few minutes but two attackers were mortally wounded and five were severely wounded.

Source: Die Glocken der Marienkirche. Freitag, Lutz Herden
http://www.freitag.de

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by Sid Guttridge » 24 Apr 2009 12:07

Hi Domen,

I see that "wolneforumgdansk.pl" has fallen from the usual Waffen-SS orientated nonsense. SS-Heimwehr Danzig was only a very small part of the Danzigh forces - berhaps 10% or 15%. The bulk of the Danzig forces were in the army's Brigade Eberhardt (also known as Brigade Danzig) and these did most of the fighting against the Poles in September 1939.

SS-Heimwehr Danzig was distinguished by the failure of every operation it undertook, including the initial assault on the Post Office.

Cheers,

Sid.

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Post by Peter H » 27 Apr 2009 05:18

Photo of the Polish captives from Gordon Williamson's SS The Blood Soaked Soil.
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Post by Adam Carr » 27 Apr 2009 05:45

The Gdansk post office building today
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Post by Adam Carr » 27 Apr 2009 05:46

The plaque in front of the entrance
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Post by Adam Carr » 27 Apr 2009 05:46

The memorial to the post office workers
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Post by Adam Carr » 27 Apr 2009 05:48

The Virtuti Militari awarded to the post office workers
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Post by Peter K » 26 Dec 2009 14:46

German casualties during the attack:

Source: USC Gdańsk - Wrzeszcz and USC Gdańsk - Śródmieście archives from 1939:

KIA:

SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eitel Hans Georg Neubert
SS-Rottenfuhrer Gunter Ladwig
SS-Rottenfuhrer Hans Teynor (or Taynor) - III platoon from 13. company of SS "Heimwehr-Danzig"
SS-Oberscharführer Eitel Neubert.
Policeman - Wachtmeister Wilhelm Senz

WIA Policemen:

Leutnant Heinrich
Hauptwachtmeister Muller
Hauptwachtmeister Gohr
Hauptwachtmeister Hahn
Oberwachtmeister Grunow
Hilfpolizisten Stalke
Hilfpolizisten Hemelt

Civilian casualties (the same source):

Killed:

Siegfrid Krebs (born 14.02.1922)
Marianna Reschke, maiden name Goździak (born 22.03.1911)


Hi Domen,

Very interesting.

If I remember rightly, only one German is usually quoted as killed. The Poles in the Post Office seem to have given a much better account of themselves than usually credited.

Many thanks,

Sid.


More than one even according to German reports (however, I don't remember the exact number).

Anyway - obituaries from the USC (Urząd Stanu Cywilnego) is the most authoritative source for casualty research.

Urząd Stanu Cywilnego = Registry of Vital Records and Statistics.

SS-Heimwehr Danzig was distinguished by the failure of every operation it undertook.


But strangely going from one failure to another failure led the Germans to the victory in the coastal area. :wink:

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Re: German plan of the attack on Polish post office in Gdansk 39

Post by Sid Guttridge » 26 Dec 2009 17:10

Hi Domen,

Not so strange. Although the small (reinforced batallion) SS-Heimwehr Danzig's record was distinguished by the failure of almost every operation it undertook in its 19-day campaign, the German Army was present in much greater (corps) strength and it was this that "led the Germans to the victory in the coastal area."

SS-Heimwehr Danzig is a classic example of Nazi wartime propaganda (including personal interest from Himmler in a speech as late as 1944) and recent publishing combining to give a small and transient SS unit a historical footprint out of all proportion to its significance and, so far, to the exclusion of the far more important German Army contribution.

I believe the best published information on the German side during the coastal campaign comes from German documents in Gdynia 1939 : relacje uczestników walk la̢dowych (Gdańsk : Wydawnictwo Morskie, 1979.)

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Re: German plan of the attack on Polish post office in Gdansk 39

Post by crolick » 26 Dec 2009 22:49

Domen121 wrote:SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eitel Hans Georg Neubert
SS-Rottenfuhrer Gunter Ladwig
SS-Rottenfuhrer Hans Teynor (or Taynor) - III platoon from 13. company of SS "Heimwehr-Danzig"
SS-Oberscharführer Eitel Neubert.
Policeman - Wachtmeister Wilhelm Senz
Neubert is counted twice.
Anyway as for the SS losses on 1 IX in Danzig:
- at least 2 were killed in Westerplatte
- at least 3 were killed in assault on Polish Post (1 from SS-HD)
Though we know that SS-Wachsturmbann sustained 12 KIA and 20 WIA in September 1939 (according to the Bericht uber Aufstellung, Einsatz und Tatigkeit des SS-Wachsturmbann E from 9 I 1940) so the losses in the Polish Post could be higher.
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Post by Peter K » 27 Dec 2009 02:01

Though we know that SS-Wachsturmbann sustained 12 KIA and 20 WIA in September 1939 (according to the Bericht uber Aufstellung, Einsatz und Tatigkeit des SS-Wachsturmbann E from 9 I 1940) so the losses in the Polish Post could be higher.


But wasn't SS-Wachsturmbann also participating in the battle of Gdynia / Kepa Oksywska?

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Post by crolick » 27 Dec 2009 15:24

Domen121 wrote:But wasn't SS-Wachsturmbann also participating in the battle of Gdynia / Kepa Oksywska?
I don't know. These casualties are only for Danzig:
Wegnahme der polnischen Stutzpunkte in Danzig (Polnische Eisenbahn-Direktion, Polnische Post und Beteiligung and den Kampfen um die Westerplatte).
Die Verluste des Wachsturmbanns bei diesem Einsatz betrugen:
12 Tote und
20 Verwundete

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