I did not say that the tank divisions were fighting : the tank divisions were going to the front, but a lot of them never arrived,because during their advance ( most of them were stationed far away of the front),they fell apart :tanks without infantry,ammunition and fuel, infantry and supply trucks without tanks, it was a chaos .But the average Soviet soldier,who fought in the ID (the MC were only a small minority) fought and fought hard :in june the Germans lost 41087 men .More than the same periods in november and december .Omeganian wrote:Then how come the cars weren't affected by these shortages? Or did they move without fuel? I don't remember the Soviets possessing that kind of technology.ljadw wrote: 10th Tank Division :on 22 june 363 tanks,of which ,following the reports,(we know the value of such reports ) 318 operational .
4 days later, only 4 days only 39 tanks were left .Reported losses were : 53 tanks . Where were the 226 other tanks ? Mainly they were lost by mechanical defects, shortages of fuel,of ammunition .
Conclusion : more than the half of the tanks of the 10 Tank division were not operational, the reports claimed that 85 % was operational, but paper is patient .
And before they had a chance to break down or run out of fuel.ljadw wrote:XX corps claimed a lot of things, but the reality is that most of these 200 knocked out tanks had been lost before they saw a German, or before firing a shot .
If they fought and didn't fly, then how do you explain the tank divisions arriving at the rear with such low personnel casualties?ljadw wrote:Reality is also that Omeganian is wrong : the Soviets did not fly (this would have been bad for the Germans ), they advanced to the border (to the satisfaction and relief of Halder) ,but before they arrived where there was the war, a lot of these divisions fell apart .What does not mean that the average Soviet soldier did not fight : he fought and killed a lot of Germans .
It has also been claimed that the tanks (T 34) who were in category 1 of readiness were ful operational,this is more than questionable : they were as showroom cars with a few miles on the counter .
And the situation of the cars was not better than the situation of the tanks .