ljadw wrote:Richard Anderson wrote:ljadw wrote:
1) Most of these divisions were second rang units
No. 29 of the divisions were classed as bodenständigen. The remainder were classed as either bewegung (16), FJ (4), or schnelltruppen (12), which by definition were .
Mobile division does not mean first rate :
116 Pz and Das Reich were not first rate on 6 june; the LSS was not operational : the remainings of Das Reich and the LSS were transferred to the west for refitting,which means that they were not first rate . 116 Pz was not operational on 6 june, thus not first rate .
9 Pz was not combat ready on 6 june (Normandy 1944 P 291)
9.Pz division was just lack of training in cohesion and lack of some equipment in June 1944. Given German efficency, they should train their force in much more better if they had enough time.
9. Pz division had sent back to West in mid April and this division had 7,500 battle-hardened veterans in cruel battlefield in the East. Another 1,600 convalescents joined the division, also old warriors and she absorbed another 3,400 soldiers in 155. Reserve Panzer division, though inexperienced in war but had long time training in the rear.
And 9. Pz division had a complete battalion of Pz IV. Panther abteilung is on training in June 1944. But don't compare it with Pz Lehr, 2.Pz and HJ. Looking back to the East at this moment, most of Pz divisions seldom had two battlaion of Pz and nor did they had numbers matched to their authorzied figure. By the standard of Eastern Front, 9. Pz division fairly well in June 1944 in comparsion with most of division. Its Pz.Gren btl (gep) is fully equipped. She had a full set of Luchs Aufk.Pz. on hand. What she lack were Flak Abteilung, Panther abteilung and soft-skinned vehicles and it was prepared as back up force for other Pz division once the allies launched their offensive.
Old 16.Pz Gren division also had 7100 veteran came from East and received 1600 convalescents, 1000 new recruits and 3000 soldiers from 179.Res Pz division. And she I./Pz.Regt GD attached to it stand in for Panther battalion.
I only agree LAH was rather weak. She was bled white in the East and received 2000 new recruit who badly needed training. She neither had a single SPW on June 1 1944.
And even many infanterie divisions were good : like 243, 326, 331, 343, 348, 352 and 353 all were equipped with StuG and Marder and thousand of soft-skinned vehicles and several thousand horses.