East Prussia january 1945

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 04 Aug 2018 08:34

donwhite wrote:
02 Aug 2018 12:27
I assume 1st Guards Tank tank holdings were up to reasonable strength prior to the late re-equiping/upgrades or was this actually a rebuild of sorts?
1 GTC relinquished almost all remaining tanks/SP guns to other units when it was withdrawn from the Narew bridgehead in October/November so all that was left was 3 or 4 tanks in the corps HQ. A new complement of AFVs was received beginning from late December. The corps was in action from 15 to 23 January coming a way from Nasielsk to Brodnica, after a period of rest it was committed again on the western side of Vistula on 31 January. Like other independent corps of the 2 Belorussian Front (8 GTC and 8 MC) 1 GTC was employed to smash though German defenses (as infantry was unable to make a complete breakthrough) suffering considerable losses in the process.

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by FORBIN Yves » 04 Aug 2018 09:34

Kelvin
Hi, Forbin, 3. Panzer division had no more than 100 tank/AG/TD in Jan 1945, only 62 RFA on Jan 1 1945.
In Fire Brigades and in december and the total… in 12/44 only the Panther Bn full have 60, 14 by Company + in HQ
In january start Konrad I with 128 tank/AG/TD and Konrad III 95 very good numbers
Hi, Cult Iron, which docment confirms PG division Br had 21 StuG IV on 15th Jan 1945, may you tell me about that, thank
Also in Fire Brigades

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by donwhite » 04 Aug 2018 10:02

Art wrote:
04 Aug 2018 08:34
donwhite wrote:
02 Aug 2018 12:27
I assume 1st Guards Tank tank holdings were up to reasonable strength prior to the late re-equiping/upgrades or was this actually a rebuild of sorts?
1 GTC relinquished almost all remaining tanks/SP guns to other units when it was withdrawn from the Narew bridgehead in October/November so all that was left was 3 or 4 tanks in the corps HQ. A new complement of AFVs was received beginning from late December. The corps was in action from 15 to 23 January coming a way from Nasielsk to Brodnica, after a period of rest it was committed again on the western side of Vistula on 31 January. Like other independent corps of the 2 Belorussian Front (8 GTC and 8 MC) 1 GTC was employed to smash though German defenses (as infantry was unable to make a complete breakthrough) suffering considerable losses in the process.
Many thanks Art,

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Michate » 20 Aug 2018 14:26

From the article discussed here previously: strength of German Army Groups on the Eastern Front by the end of 1944 (the post says that the table stands for early 1944 but that's a mistake):
The strength figurers listed in the Table pertain to 1 November 1944.

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 21 Aug 2018 08:10

Thanks. I remember it was discussed somewhere here, but can't find where.

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 25 Sep 2018 10:14

Ration strength of the AOK 4 as of 1 January 1945 (from NARA T312 R244)

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Total 461 696 men, including 351 602 Heer personnel, 6 611 SS and police, 66 226 Luftwaffe (including both HG divisions) and various Osttruppen, foreign soldiers, civil personnel, OT and POWs.

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 25 Sep 2018 17:58

Status of armored vehicles in the AOK 4 by the start of the operation (from the document entitled "situation of anti-tank weapons in AOK 4 as of 12/13.1.45")

LV AK:
547 VGD:
2./St.G.Br. 185 – 8 StuG operational + 1 in long-term repair = 9
562 VGD:
Pz.Jäg.Kp. 1562 – 9 StuG operational + 1 long repair =10
St.G.Br. 185 (w/o 2 company) – 18 StuG operational + 1in long repair = 19
203 ID:
4./St.G.Lehr.Br.920 – 6 StuG operational

VI AK
541 VGD:
Pz.Jäg.Kp.1541 – 13 StuG operational +1 in short-term repair = 14
131 ID:
Pz.Jäg.Kp. 1131 – 9 Stug operational
3./St.G.Br.209 – 9 StuG operational
558 VGD:
Pz.Jäg.Kp. 1558 – 9 StuG operational
St.G.Br.209 (w/o 3 company) – 18 StuG operational + 2 in short repair
18 Pz.Gr.D – 41 StuG operational, 2 StuH operational +1 in long repair, total 44

XXXI Pz.K
170 ID:
Pz.Jäg.Kp.1240 – 4 StuG operational
367 ID:
Pz.Jäg.Kp.1367 – 6 StuG operational, 2 in short, 2 in long repair = 10
50 ID: 2 Pak (Sf.)
Pz.Jäg.Kp.1150 – 10 StuG operational
St.G.Br.259 – 33 StuG operational, 7 in short, 2 in long repair, total 42
28 JD:
Pz.Jäg.Kp.1028 – 10 StuG operational
s.Panzer-Abt.505 – 31 Tigers operational, 5 in short and 1 in long repair = 37
21 ID: 2 StuG operational
St.G.Br. 279 – 18 StuG operational, 1 in long repair = 19

Fsch.Pz.K. HG
Fsch.Pz.Gr.D 2 HG – 29 StuG operational, 1 in short, 2 in long repair = 32
St.Btl. HG – 4 Pak (Sf.) operational + 2 in short, 2 in long repair = 8
61 ID:
Pz.Jäg.Kp.1161 – 8 StuG operational
Pz.Jäg.Abt.1 HG – 13 StuG operational, 3 in short, 1 in long repair = 17
Fsch.Pz.D 1 HG:
Pz.IV – 28 operational + 5 short + 5 long repair = 38
Pz.V – 34 operational + 8 short + 3 long repair = 45

Sperrverband Grajevo:
s. H.Pz.Jäg.Abt. 664 – 9 Nashorns operational

Total in the Army: 275 operational StuGs, 93 operational tanks, 15 operational self-propelled anti-tank guns, 292 heavy towed anti-tank guns
Also in fortress anti-tank companies (total 13 companies): 154 heavy towed anti-tank guns
From a comparison with data posted earlier it seems that StuGs stand for both assault guns and assault howitzers.

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 25 Sep 2018 21:04

Divisions of the AOK 4, status as of 13.1.45:

LV AK
547 VGD: 1 strong, 1 average, 3 mediocre infantry battalions, 1 Fusilier coy, 1 strong field replacement battalion, 1 pioneer coy. 1 mediocre infantry battalion taken to the corps reserve.
Infantry strength: 2237 men
12 heavy AT guns
7 light artillery batteries (28 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (6 pieces)
Mobility: 100% horse transport, 70% motortransport
Combat value: IV

562 VGD: 4 strong, 2 average infantry battalions, 1 Fus. coy, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 pioneer coy
Infantry strength: 2856
12 heavy AT guns, 9 StuGs
6 light batteries (24 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (7 pieces), 3 field cannon batteries (18 pieces)
Mobility: 80%
Combat value: IV

203 ID: 2 strong, 3 average infantry battalions. 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 mediocre pioneer battalion
Infantry strength: 2940
12 heavy AT guns
6 light batteries (23 pieces), 3 trophy (Yugoslav) batteries (12 pieces), 1 heavy trophy (French) battery (3 pieces)
Mobility: 100 horse-transport, 35 % motor transport
Combat value: IV

VI AK
541 VGD: 3 strong, 4 average infantry battalions, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 weak pioneer battalion. Attached: Army Sturm-Battalion (strong)
Infantry strength: 3572
18 heavy AT guns, 13 StuGs
9 light batteries (34 pieces), 3 heavy batteries (10 pieces)
Mobility: 90%
Combat value: III

Gruppe Hannibal: 1 strong, 1 average, 2 mediocre infantry battalions
Infantry strength: 1290
2 heavy AT guns
4 trophy batteries (14 76.2-mm Rus guns, 3 122-mm Rus howitzers, 1 s.F.H. 42)
Mobility: 50 horse transport, 30% motor transport
Combat value: IV

131 ID: 6 average, 1 mediocre infantry battalion, 1 mediocre pioneer battalion, 1 average replacement battalion
Infantry strength: 2508
26 heavy AT guns, 9 StuGs
9 light batteries (34 pieces), 3 heavy batteries (9 pieces)
Mobility: 100% horse-transport, 75% motor transport
Combat value: III

558 VGD: 6 average infantry battalions, fusilier battalion in formation, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 pioneer coy.
Infantry strength: 2284
9 StuGs
6 light batteries (23 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (7 pieces), 3 field cannon batteries (20 pieces)
Mobility: 90%
Combat value: III

XXXI PzK
170 ID: 3 average, 3 mediocre infantry battalions, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 mediocre pioneer battalion. 1 mediocre battalion is taken to corps reserve
Infantry strength: 2459
19 heavy AT guns, 4 StuGs
9 light batteries (31 pieces), 3 heavy batteries (12 pieces, incl. 6 French)
Mobility: 90% horse transport, 80 % motor transport
Combat value: III

367 ID: 4 average, 2 mediocre infantry battalions, 1 mediocre replacement battalion, 1 mediocre pioneer battalion. 1 mediocre infantry battalion is taken to corps reserve.
Infantry strength: 2211
20 heavy AT guns, 6 StuGs
9 light batteries (31 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (7 pieces), 1 10cm cannon battery (4 pieces)
Mobility: 100%
Combat value: III

50 ID
: 6 average infantry battalions, 1 mediocre replacement battalion, 1 average pioneer battalion. 1 strong infantry battalion in corps reserve
Infantry strength: 2842
18 heavy AT guns, 2 self-propelled AT guns, 10 StuGs
9 light batteries (33 pieces), 3 heavy batteries (7 pieces, incl.2 French)
Mobility: 95 horse transport, 80% motor transport
Combat value: II

28 Jg.D: 5 strong, 2 average infantry battalions, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 average pioneer battalion.
Infantry strength: 3100
19 heavy AT guns, 10 StuGs
8 light batteries (31 pieces), 3 heavy batteries (10 pieces), 1 light gun battery (3 pieces)
Mobility: 100% horse transport, 85% motor transport
Combat value: II

21 ID: 5 average, 1 mediocre infantry battalions, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 mediocre pioneer battalion. 1 average infantry battalion in corps reserve
Infantry strength: 2454
21 heavy AT guns, 2 StuGs
8 light batteries (32 pieces), 3 heavy batteries (11 pieces), 1 field cannon battery (4 pieces)
Mobility: 80% horse transport, 95% motor transport
Combat value: II

Fsch.Pz.K HG
Fsch.Pz.Gr.D 2 HG: 6 strong infantry battalions, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 average pioneer battalion
Infantry strength: 4143 (with corps Strum-battalion HG)
22 heavy AT guns, 29 StuGs
5 light batteries (23 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (11 pieces), 1 10-cm cannon battery (4 pieces), 1 light gun battery (3 pieces)
Attached: 2 light batteries (12 pieces), 1 heavy battery (5 pieces) from Fsch.Pz.D 1 HG
Mobility: 45% motor transport
Combat value: III

61 ID: 1 strong, 5 average infantry battalions, 1 battalion in formation, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 average pioneer battalion
Infantry strength: 2655
20 heavy AT guns, 8 StuGs
Attached: 2 light batteries (12 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (7 pieces), 1 10-cm cannon battery (3 pieces) from Fsch.Pz.D. 1 HG
Mobility: 75%
Combat value: III

Army reserve:
Fsch.Pz.D. 1 HG: 5 strong, 1 average infantry battalions, 1 strong replacement battalion, 1 strong pioneer battalion
Infantry strength: 3599
6 heavy AT guns, 29 Pz IV, 36 Pz. V
2 light batteries (12 pieces), 1 heavy battery (5 pieces) attached to Fsch.Pz.Gr.D. 2 HG
2 light batteries (12 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (7 pieces), 1 10-cm cannon battery (3 pieces) are attached to 61 ID
Mobility: 65%
Combat value: II

18 Pz.Gr.D: 4 strong, 1 mediocre infantry battalions, 2 battalions and replacement battalion not yet formed, 1 mediocre pioneer battalion
Infantry strength: 3341 (with Army Sturm-battalion)
15 heavy AT guns, 43 StuGs
3 light batteries (18 pieces), 1 heavy battery (6 pieces)
Mobility: 75% horse transport, 45% motor transport
Combat value: IV

83 ID: 5 strong infantry battalions, 2 battalion in formation, 1 weak replacement battalion, 1 average pioneer battalion
Infantry strength: 2389
18 heavy AT guns
6 light batteries (24 pieces), 2 heavy batteries (12 pieces), 3 field cannon batteries (18 pieces)
Mobility: 100% horse transport, 62 % motor transport
Combat value: III

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by donwhite » 26 Sep 2018 00:02

Art,

Great posts (again & again!),

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 27 Sep 2018 09:23

You are welcome.
From a comparison between different documents it appears that a battalion was called "strong" (starke) when its combat strength was above 400 men, "average" (mittelstarke) - between 300 and 400, "mediocre" or "weakened" (durchschnittliches) - less than 200 (but more than 100 probably). Still there is a question how mobility was calculated.

Also from a review of divisions it looks that worst were placed on the southern wing of the 4 Army along the Narew River, whereas divisions in the northern (left-wing) sector facing probably Soviet offensive were among the best.

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 27 Sep 2018 16:21

Independent combat units of the Army Group Center as of 7 December 1944 (based on a large schematic order of battle from NARA files):

Directly under Army Group HQ:
Engineer and construction units:
Engineer regiment staffs (1): Pi.Rgt.Stab 507
Engineer bridging battalions (1): Pi.Brüchen-Btl. 84
Bridging staffs (3): Brücko-Staffel-Stb. 928, 930, 931
Bridging columns B, motorized (6): Brüko B (mot). 12, 19, 29, 34, 2/409, 534
Bridging columns B (equipment) (2): Brüko B (Ger.Einh.) 907, 908
Bridging columns B (equipment with escort troop) (9): Brüko B (Ger.Einh m. Begl.Kd.) 35, 57, 3, 162, 79, 1/405, 442, 864, 868
Heavy tank bridging columns (2): s.Pz.Brüko 853, 915 (G.E.)
Light tank bridging columns (1): le.Pz.Brüko 62
Engineer park battalions staffs (2): Pi.Park-Btl.Stb. 521, 561
Construction commander’s HQs (2); Höh.Pi.Führer 17, z.b.V.9
Construction engineer regiment staffs (1): Pi.Rgt.Stbe z.b.V. 547
Construction engineer battalions (3+9 coys): Bau-Pi.Btl. 9 (Wei.Ru.), 11 (Wei.Ru.), Bau-Pi.Btl. 420 (Ru.), Bau-Pi.Kp. (Ru.) 420, 415, 725, 728, 730, 732, 739, 783, I/999
Reserve construction engineer battalions (9): Reserve-Bau-Pi.Btl. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12, 13, 28
Landwehr construction engineer battalions (2+1 column): Lds.-Bau-Pi.Btl. 3, 16, Lds.-Bau-Kolonne 4
Engineer equipment battalions (3): Pi.Ger.-u.Masch.-Abt 521, 551, 561
Engineer mine-laying battalions (1): Pi.Minen-Sperr-Btl. 901
Snow removal troops (2): Schneeräum Trupp 170/224, 171/224
Military geological detachments (2): Wehrgeologenst. 9, 37

Infantry and fortress units:
Fortress infantry regiment staffs (2): Stb.Inf.Rgt. 3, 5
Fortress machine gun battalions (2): Fest.MG.Btl. 21, 22
Fortress anti-aircraft machine gun battalions (1): Fest.Inf.Fla.Btl. 801
Fortress anti-tank companies (9): Fest.Pak.Kp. 1, 2, 22, 23, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28/VIII

Misc.units:
Survey and mapping battalions (1): Verm.u.Kart.Abt. 530
Field penal prison battalions (2): Feld-Strafgef.Abt. 2, 20
Convalescent companies: [unreadable]

Pz.AOK 3
Artillery units
Army artillery HQ (1): Harko. 313
Corps artillery HQ (4): Arko. 24 (XXVIII AK), 127 (XXVII AK), 139 (IX AK), 6 (XXVI AK)
Artillery regiment staffs (1): Art.Regt.Stb. z.b.V. 785
Assault gun brigades (5): Stu.G.Brig. 278, 232, 203, 276, 277
Artillery brigade staffs (1): H.Art.Br. 88
Artillery battalions, 10cm guns (1): Fest.Art.Abt. 856
Artillery battalions, light howitzers (3): H.Art.Abt 1064 (w/o 1 battery), 1044, II./H.Art.Br. 88
Artillery battalions, heavy howitzers (1): III./H.Art.Br. 88
Artillery battalions, heavy, mixed (3+1/3): Art.Abt. 6./41, I./814, I./818 (w/o 2 battery), I./62
Artillery battalions, 21cm Mrs. (2): Art.Abt. 816, IV./H.Art.Br. 88
Artillery battalions, self-propelled heavy howitzers (1): I./H.Art.Br.88
Artillery batteries, 17-cm guns (1): 3./Art.Abt. 620
Light observation battalions, motorized (3): le.Beob.Abt. 5, 39, 15
Observation battalions (2): Beob.Abt. 56, 47
Light artillery calibration troop (1): Le.Vo.Meβ Trupp 629

Engineer and construction units:
Engineer regiment staffs (3): Pi.Rgt.Stb. 514, 628, 513
Engineer battalions, partly motorized (2): Pi.Btl. 748, 662
Engineer battalion, horse transport (2): Pi.Btl. 743, 753
Engineer bridging battalions (1): Pi.Brücken-Btl. 208
Assault boat troops (3): 1 Kdo, 2./Pi.La.Btl.128, Pi.La.Brücken-Kp. 773
Engineer mining companies (2): Pi.Horch-u.Min.Kp. 7, 17
Bridging staffs (1): Brüko-Staffel-Stb. 932
Bridging columns B (6): Brüko B (mot). 89, 401, 1/411, 660, 664, 1/430
Bridging columns B, equipment (1): Brüko B (Ger.Einh.) 906
Bridging columns B, equipment with escort troop (1): Brüko B (Ger.Einh m. Begl.Kd.)
Heavy tank bridging columns (1): s.Pz. Brüko 848
Construction commander’s HQs (1); Höh.Pi.Führer z.b.V.8
Construction engineer regiment staffs (1): Pi.Rgt.Stbe z.b.V. 15
Construction engineer battalions (7+): Bau-Pi.Btl. 46, 95 (part), 784, 123, 78, 136, 731, 196
Landwehr construction engineer company (1): Lds.-Bau-Pi.Kp. 12
Snow removal troops (2): Schneeräum Trupp 162/224, 163/224
Military geological detachments (1): Wehrgeologenst. 28

Smoke (rocket) units:
Rocket brigades (1): Werfer-Brig.6
Rocket regiments, motorized (1): Werfer-Regt. (mot.) 81
Heavy rocket regiments (2): s.Werfer-Regt. 3 (w/o I. battalion), 82

Infantry and fortress units:
Fortress infantry battalions (3): Fest.Inf.Btl. 1404, 1413, 644
Fortress machine-gun battalions (5): Fest.MG.Btl. 32, 35, 64, 59, 64
Fortress anti-aircraft machine gun battalions (1): Fest.Inf.Fla.Btl. 809
Fortress anti-tank companies: Stb.Fest.Pak-Verb.VI, Fest.Pak Kp. 4, 9, 11/I; 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9/VI

Armored units:
Heavy tank battalions, Tiger (1): s.Pz.Abt. 502

Misc. units:
Survey and mapping battalions (1): Verm.u.Kart.Abt. 618
Infantry battalion, probation (2): Gren.-Btl. Z.b.V. (Bewähr.) 697, 650
Field penal prison battalions (1): Feld.Stafgef.Abt. 11
Field convalescent companies (2): [unreadable], 28

AOK 4
Artillery units
Army artillery HQ (1): Harko. 302
Corps artillery HQ (4): Arko. 140 (XXXIX PzK), 126 (VI AK), 35 (Cav.K), 146 (LV AK)
Artillery regiment staffs (2): Art.Regt.Stb. z.b.V. 788, 609
Assault gun brigades (5+1/3): Stu.G.Brig. 209, 909, 185, 279, 259, 4./920
Artillery battalions, 10cm guns, static (1): Art.Abt. 906
Artillery battalions, light howitzers (3): Art.Abt. 1063, 426, 860
Artillery battalions, heavy howitzers (3): I./Art.Rgt.108, IV.Art.Regt.109, II./Art.Rgt.39
Artillery battalions, heavy, mixed (2): Art.Abt. 153, 422
Artillery battalions, 21cm Mrs. (1): Art.Abt. 808
Artillery battalions, self-propelled heavy howitzers (1): Art.Abt. 845
Artillery battalions, anti-tank, partly motorized (1): Art.Abt. 1057
Artillery batteries, 17cm, guns (1): 1./Art.Abt.817
Light observation battalions, motorized (1): le.Beob.Abt. 9
Observation battalions (3): Beob.Abt. 37, 65, 61
Observation balloon platoon, static: Ball.Zg. (bo.) 4
Light artillery calibration troop (1): Le.Vo.Meβ Trupp 504


Engineer and construction units:
Engineer brigades: H.Stu.Pi.Br. 627
Engineer regiment staffs (3): Pi.Rgt.Stb. 39, 10, 1
Engineer battalions, motorized (4): I.,II./ H.Stu.Pi.Br. 627, Pi.Btl. 268, Stu.Pi.Btl. 500
Engineer battalion, horse transport (2): Pi.Btl. 745, 632
Engineer bridging battalions (1): Pi.Brücken-Btl. 812
Bridging columns B, equipment (1): Brüko B (Ger.Einh.) 27
Engineer mining companies (1): Pi.Horch-u.Min.Kp. 5
Construction engineer regiment staffs (1): Pi.Rgt.Stbe z.b.V. 544
Construction engineer battalions (12): Bau-Pi.Btl. 79, 320, 125, 419 (w/o 1 company), 576 (w/o company), II./999, 91, 97, 584, 244, 44, 532
Snow removal troops (2): Schneeräum Trupp 164/224, 165/224
Military geological detachments (1): Wehrgeologenst. 20

Smoke (rocket) units:
Heavy rocket battalions (1): I./s.Werf.Rgt.3

Infantry and fortress units:
Fortress infantry regiments staffs (1): Fest.Inf.Rgt.Stb.1
Fortress infantry battalions (3): Fest.Inf.Btl. 1438, 1477, 269
Fortress machine guns battalion (1): Fest.MG Btl. 68
Fortress anti-tank companies (13): Fest.Pak.Kp. 2, 10, 17/I; 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17/VII

Armored units:
Heavy tank battalions, Tiger (1): s.Pz.Abt. 505
Tank battalions, remote controlled (1): Pz.Abt.302 (Fkl.)
Artillery anti-tank battalions, 8.8-cm guns, towed (1): H.Pz.Jg.Abt. 665
Artillery anti-tank battalions, 8.8cm Hornisse (1): H.Pz.Jg.Abt. 664

Misc. units:
Armored trains (5): Panzer-Züg 32, 68a, 30, 76, 72b
Survey and mapping battalions (1): I./A.L.R.4
Propaganda companies (1): Prop.Kp. 689
Infantry battalion, probation (1): Gren.-Btl. Z.b.V. (Bewähr.) 560
Field convalescent companies (2): 54, 19

AOK 2
Artillery units
Army artillery HQ (1): Harko. 308
Corps artillery HQ (3): Arko. 129 (XX AK), 112 (XXIII AK), 104 (IV. SS Pz.K)
Artillery regiment staffs (1): Art.Regt.Stb. z.b.V. 69
Assault gun brigades (3): Stu.G.Brig. 904, 249, 190
Artillery brigade staffs (1): H.Art.Br. 704
Artillery battalions, 10cm guns (1): III./H.Art.Br.704
Artillery battalions, light howitzers (4): I.,II./H/Art.Br. 704, Art.Abt.851, 1062
Artillery battalions, heavy howitzer (1): II./Art.Rgt. 69
Artillery battalions, heavy, mixed (3): II./Art.Rgt.47, II./Art.Rgt.61, Art.Abt.445
Artillery battalions, 21cm Mrs. (1): Art.Abt. 858
Light observation battalions, motorized (1): le.Beob.Abt. 1
Observation battalions (3): Beob.Abt. 46, 21,49
Light artillery calibration troop (1): Le.Vo.Meβ Trupp 639

Engineer and construction units:
Engineer regiment staffs (2): Pi.Rgt.Stb. 517, 623
Engineer battalions, horse transport (2): Pi.Btl. 221, 750
Engineer bridging battalions (4): Pi.Brücken-Btl. 4, 255, 54 (w/o 1 company), 593
Assault boats troops (1): 1./Fl.Pi.Kd.Süd
Bridging staffs (1): Brüko-Staffel-Stb. 928
Bridging columns B (5): Brüko B (mot). 25, 98, 535, 626, 672
Bridging columns B (equipment with escort troop) (1): Brüko B (Ger.Einh m. Begl.Kd.) 33
Heavy tank bridging columns (1): s.Pz. Brüko 845
Bridging columns T (1): Brüko T 175
Construction commander’s HQs (1); Höh.Pi.Führer z.b.V.10
Construction engineer regiment staffs (1): Pi.Rgt.Stbe z.b.V. 42
Engineer construction battalions (9): Bau-Pi.Btl. 544, 828 (Wo.Ta.), 80, 137, 418, 9, 134, 830 (Wo.Ta.)
Engineer equipment battalions (1): Pi.Ger.-u.Masch.-Abt. 511
Snow removal troops (2): Schneeräum Trupp 166/224, 167/224
Military geological detachments (1): Wehrgeologenst. 23

Smoke (rocket) units:
Rocket brigades (1): Werfer-Brig. 1
Rocket regiments (1): Werfer-Rgt. 57
Heavy rocket regiments (1): s.Werf.Rgt. 1

Infantry and fortress units:
Fortress infantry battalions (3): Fest.Inf.Btl. 1428, 1424, 1405
Fortress machine gun battalions (1): Fest.MG Btl. 24
Fortress anti-aircraft machine gun battalions (1): Fest.Inf.Fla.Btl. 814
Mortar battalions (1): Gr.Werf.-Btl. 19
Infantry anti-tank battalions (1): Pz.Serstörer-Btl. 474
Fortress anti-tank companies (4): 13, 14, 15, 16/I

Armored units:
Heavy tank battalions (Tiger): s.Pz.Abt. 507

Misc. units:
Survey and mapping battalions (1): Verm.u.Kart.Abt. 620
Field penal prison battalions (2): Feld.Stafgef.Abt. 1, 13
Field convalescent companies (2): 21, 41

Unfortunately no detailed OOB for a later date is available, even though there was some reshuffle of the corps HQ and arrival of new formed fortress units, and some other changes probably.
I've just noticed that the same thing was posted several years ago with a detailed breakdown by corps:
https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31384
https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31398
https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31390
https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31409

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by donwhite » 29 Sep 2018 00:57

Art wrote "Unfortunately no detailed OOB for a later date is available, even though there was some reshuffle of the corps HQ and arrival of new formed fortress units, and some other changes probably." - hence the importance of army level OOB's for the first quarter of January 1945 to help complete/confirm the entire picture. The previously posted 4th Army OOB (German Docs in Russia) being a case in point. I would be very interested if similar detail survives for 3rd Panzer and 2nd Armies.

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by FORBIN Yves » 05 Oct 2018 10:09

Art wrote:
25 Sep 2018 10:14
Ration strength of the AOK 4 as of 1 January 1945 (from NARA T312 R244)

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Total 461 696 men, including 351 602 Heer personnel, 6 611 SS and police, 66 226 Luftwaffe (including both HG divisions) and various Osttruppen, foreign soldiers, civil personnel, OT and POWs.
Wow excellent lasts posts but what means these columns please ?

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by Art » 05 Oct 2018 19:00

Gesampt Verpflegungstärke - total ration strength
Mann - men
Pferde - horses
Heer - Ground forces
SS u. Pol - SS and police troops
Luftwaffe - self-explanatory
Marine - Navy
Freiwillige - foreign volunteers
Auslander - not from the USSR
Osttruppen - from the Soviet Union
Angehörige verbündeter Mächte - personnel of foreign armies (Italian, Hungarian, Slovakian)
Whermachtsgefolge - civil personnel attached to German Armed Forces
Reichsdeutsche - from Reich
Nichtreichsdeutsche - from foreign territories
Kreigsgefangene und Internierte - prisoners of war and internees
OT - organization Todt
Verpflegungssätze - rations by rate (from I to IV rate)

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Re: East Prussia january 1945

Post by FORBIN Yves » 06 Oct 2018 11:32

Thank you ! but i think the 3rd column + 5 and/or 7th is the real strentgh of the unit number of men present i see rather the 1st for TOE in theory
and seems a lot seems impossible in january 1945 a ID to 16000 mens ! number of 1941 17700 ... in general i have in average in 01/1945 ID a good ID to 12000 mens do about 2 Russians, Jagers/Light ID/Mountains Divs are a little more small but elite units as the 78 ID, the 1 Ski Jager have even T-34 and Stug !

And a problem for 28 Jag and 21 ID.

But worck for Mech units and 18 PZG have only 4 Mot Bns, Brandenburg also
but she hav send as PZG GD one Mot Bn in Korps Fusillier Rgt GD with PZK elements
in addition Brandenburg don't have Stug Bde after joinin Rft to Lodz 16 january see previous posts former Stg Bde GD.
In book Fire Brigades
Total 461 696 men, including 351 602 Heer personnel, 6 611 SS and police, 66 226 Luftwaffe (including both HG divisions) and various Osttruppen, foreign soldiers, civil personnel, OT and POWs
Not for 4th Army I have AGC to 580000 mens without Volksturm

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