Hanny wrote: ↑
30 Jan 2019 13:10
ljadw wrote: ↑
29 Jan 2019 16:10
About the suicide of Jeschonnek,mentioned in post 82: this was not caused by the conviction that Germany had lost the war,or by the attacks on Schweinfurt and Regensburg, but by the order of Jeschonnek after the attack on Peenemünde to the German Flak in Berlin to shoot on a concentration of German fighters, who were thought by Jeschonnek to be allied aircraft .It was this blunder that caused Jeschonnek's suicide .
Jesconeck had argued with Goring about force stucture, LW in 1943 was losing 20% of ftr pilots a month, of bombers 14%, Jesconeck had lost the argument over building more fts, In July/August LW Ftrs lost 32% and 36% if its strength in the Reich. Goring blammed Jeschonnek from early 43 onwards as SB took its toll, and he went to AH on the 17th to defend himself, witha 10 page memo for AH to see, asking for Goring to be removed, or he would resign, AH refused to do either.
We have his own suicide note, we have his aides and others comments all supporting suicide over failure to convince goring he was wrong and being scapgoated by Goring. He had already attempted suicide earlier, and had the gun taken out his hand by his aide, who feared he would try it again.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MjR ... de&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7fg ... de&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=e0R ... de&f=false
Jesconeck on August 18th wrote a suicide note, explaining Goring had caused the problems and was using him as a scape goat for inability to defend the Reich, and thats his death would be a beacon of hope for the LW, and shot himself. In this note he asked Goring not attend his funeral.
Now the idea that he shot himself over AA fire over Berlin comes from Van Wachstein acount, in which the 20 RAF bombers spoof raid drew in 148 fighters against them and not Peenemede and Jeschonnek directing AA fire that shot down 100 German fighters killing their pilots. Its only his opinion, not shared by anyone else.
The Allies tapped all pow conversations, https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... G_0001.pdf
here we learn of why he shot himself
Colonel General Jeschonnek, G.P.G. Chief of Staff, died in August 1.943, it was officially given out in Germany that he had died from natural causes at Goering/s Headquarters, It was understooe by officers in the G.A.F., however, that he had shot himself. The prisoner was told that one night Hitler had had a long and angry conversation with Jeschonn(k, in which he reproached the latter for the general leer ficiency and Ian's of enterprise of the G.A.F.; he en( the conversation with: "You know what you can do nor, with the result that Jeschonnek shot himsell s in the early hours of the following morning.
First thing wrong in the wiki acount you prefer, is thats standing orders require the AA guns to engage, there was not 200 as wikki claims but 148, and 7 planes were lost and only 3 pilots killed, if the AA could hit and destroy two thirds of bombers, then SB would have lasted a week and been given up as a bad idea.
Jeschonnek and Udet both shot themselves for fundamentally the same reasons, they failed to convince goring and AH to face reality.