Was Germany’s situation THAT bad in the summer of 1942?

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Re: Was Germany’s situation THAT bad in the summer of 1942?

Post by SloveneLiberal » 08 Aug 2019 20:23

In this period of war in eastern front 1941-summer 1942 the question of fighting for or against communism was specially not very important one for both sides. SU was contrary to this trying to give to their war efforts the face of patriotic war to mobilize us much support as possible at home and abroad. Because their situation was very critical in 1941 until the decision to do offensive against Moscow and in some lesser extent even further. In period of 1939-41 SU was spreading communism by force and got more enemies also on this way, but Comintern warned even communists in resistance movements in Europe in 1941 that they should not organize fight for communism but rather a patriotic front against Nazi Geramny and its allies.

And also German leadership and Hitler were not very interested in fighting against communism in 1941. This issue was not very important for them until 1943 when they were already in very bad situatiuon and started this campaign of creating so called front against communism and its penetration of Europe. Their interest at first was to create a Lebensraum with ethnic and racial cleansing and Germanization of the area of Poland, Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus and west Russia. Even they declined open hands offered by some movements at that time to fight together against communism. Because this was not the main priority and it was even harmful for Nazi plans.

In later periord of war the goal of spreading communism by the advancing Red army and supporting local pro-Soviet guerilla forces in east and south east Europe was important for Moscow but at that particular time about which we are talking here it was not important because it was more a battle for survival.

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Re: Was Germany’s situation THAT bad in the summer of 1942?

Post by SloveneLiberal » 02 Feb 2020 21:56

Noteworthy! Dr. Joseph Goebbles confirms in his diary the explanation which i gave here, that Hitler was at first against offensive toward Moscow and wanted instead Caucasus to be cut off in 1941. General Brauchitsch is mentioned by Goebbles as the one the most responsible that Hitler's plan which could be very beneficial for Third Reich as i showed was not carried out.

Goebbles wrote this in his diary on 20. March 1942.

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Re: Was Germany’s situation THAT bad in the summer of 1942?

Post by Aida1 » 02 Feb 2020 22:08

Yuri wrote:
04 Aug 2019 12:41
Peter89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019 09:03
and the fact that the Germans could not offer freedom against bolshevism to the people of the SU.
As seen you are not friends with the facts.
This is what (freedom from Bolshevism and no other) was offered to the Russian and other peoples of USSR by all the Europeans, without exception, who invaded Russia together with the German Wehrmacht.
All Russians and representatives of other peoples of USSR, who wanted to free themselves from Bolshevism, did it. Such according to various estimates ranged from 800 000 to 1 500 000, of which from 300 000 to 500 000 fought for freedom from Bolshevism with Europeans.
The problem for Germans and all other Europeans fans of the liberation of the Russians and other peoples of USSR from Bolshevism was that the remaining minimum of of 150 million citizens thies USSR fought for the Bolshevik Russia.
It was these 150 000 0000 that "released the guts" of the German Wehrmacht, the Royal army of Hungary, the Royal army of Romania, the democratic army of Finland and troops other enthusiast to liberate Russians from the Bolshevik slavery.
That shows a lot of fantasy as Germany did rather the oppositie of winning the favour of the population in the occupied part of the USSR. :lol:

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