opération Ring 10 january-2 february

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opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by marthus » 28 Jan 2020 09:18

Operation Ring January 10-February 2, 1943
I am currently reading one of D.Glantz's books on the battle of Stalingrad and in particular that concerning Operation Ring, the destruction of the 6th German army surrounded in the region of Stalinrad and in the city itself. But the fights are difficult to follow for lack of detailed maps, especially as regards the western regions (Karpovka, Marinovka), southwest, south (Tsybenko, Elkhi) and north of the encirclement pocket. Ultimately the regions outside the city of Stalingrad itself ....
would anyone have detailed maps of these areas ??
thank you

Opération Ring 10 janvier-2 février 1943
je lis en ce moment un des livres de D.Glantz sur la bataille de Stalingrad et notamment celui qui concerne l'opération Ring , la destruction de la 6e armée Allemande encerclée dans la région de Stalinrad et dans la ville elle même. Mais les combats sont difficiles à suivre faute de cartes détaillées, surtout en ce qui concerne les régions ouest (Karpovka, Marinovka), sud-ouest, sud (Tsybenko, Elkhi) et nord de la poche d'encerclement. En définitive les régions hors de la ville de Stalingrad elle-même....
quelqu'un aurait-il des cartes détaillées de ces secteurs ??
merci

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by Dann Falk » 28 Jan 2020 16:25

Greetings,

Please see my small web site at falkenbooks.com

I provide a nice Stalingrad map and some other interesting links to maps and other things.

Have fun

Dann

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by Art » 28 Jan 2020 17:01

Check this site for post-war topo maps. I guess you need NM 38-11
http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/eastern_europe/

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by dgfred » 28 Jan 2020 21:48

Stalingrad.net is good too.

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Post by marthus » 29 Jan 2020 09:31

Hello

Thank you very much Art, as usual your information is superb ...
on the other hand on the map of Stalingrad I miss the sector concerning the salient of Marinovka / karpovka and it is that which interests me the most! is there a map concerning this sector ??

thanks also to Dann Falk, but I can't read the map on the site in detail ... too bad your book only concerns the 64th Shumilov Army, if you make another more complete one on this battle seen from the Soviets side but concerning all the armed forces of the Don Front, I would be interested

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Post by Dann Falk » 29 Jan 2020 20:50

Glad you looked at my site.

You should also think about the Stalingrad Battle Atlas series, four volumes so far, by Anton Joly. You can find them on Amazon.com. A nice set of maps, photos and text in each book covering the battle for the city.

Dann

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Post by Art » 29 Jan 2020 22:16

marthus wrote:
29 Jan 2020 09:31
on the other hand on the map of Stalingrad I miss the sector concerning the salient of Marinovka / karpovka and it is that which interests me the most! is there a map concerning this sector ??
NM 38-10 Oblivskaya

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by marthus » 30 Jan 2020 17:00

Hello

thank you Art

Dann, I actually have the volumes of Anton Joly on the battle of Stalingrad, but there are above all (and that's already good) maps of the city ...., but what interests me is is maps of the western sectors of the Staligrad region where the 24th, 65th and 21st Soviet armies fought against the 8th corps (44th, 76th and 113th divisions) and the 14th armored corps (29th, 3rd motorized divisions and 376th division ) and for the moment I cannot find a complete map of these sectors

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by Dann Falk » 30 Jan 2020 17:53

OK Martthus,

Check out this site….it's old but the map links work.

http://armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/maps ... alingrad42

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Post by GregSingh » 31 Jan 2020 12:13

What scale do you need ?
Here is a fragment of German period map covering Marinovka - Karpovka. (Click on it to load the map).

marinovka-karpovka.jpg
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If we become increasingly humble about how little we know, we may be more eager to search.

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by marthus » 01 Feb 2020 13:14

Thank you all for your efforts to find me a solution
I am not looking for a scale in particular, but a map that does not hold on A4
It is very difficult to navigate with the book of D Glantz because it uses the English or German names to designate the same village or a Soviet city, it also uses landmarks (Marker?) Or hill, which are hard to spot! as much as we have a lot of detailed maps of the city of Stalingrad, as much as it is difficult to have a detailed map of the whole region where the German forces were surrounded ...... salient of Marinovka, western region of Rossoska river, karpovka sector and south Tsybenko-Elkhi region, north sector (11th German army corps)

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by GregSingh » 02 Feb 2020 10:43

There is an excellent map here - cluster of several 1:100000 Soviet maps. Every hill, landmark and village. Large map 110MB.
Reporting map of Don Front actions from 10.1 to 22.1.43
If we become increasingly humble about how little we know, we may be more eager to search.

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Re: opération Ring 10 january-2 february

Post by marthus » 03 Feb 2020 18:45

thank you Greg

I will try to get by with this beautiful card, but I must be able to print it which is not won ......

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