Germans in the UPA guerilla movement
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Germans in the UPA guerilla movement
Were there any action reports of German soldiers fighting alongside with the UPA guerilla movement. The Germans came from stragglers or escape German POWs. There Germans in the UPA were still fighting even after the German surrender of May 1945. Correct me if I'm wrong but does the UPA had aircraft of its own?
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Different nationalities fought in UPA, but I can't remember any Germans among them.Edward L. Hsiao wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 06:15Were there any action reports of German soldiers fighting alongside with the UPA guerilla movement. The Germans came from stragglers or escape German POWs. There Germans in the UPA were still fighting even after the German surrender of May 1945.
I've heard stories about 3 aircraft.Edward L. Hsiao wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 06:15Correct me if I'm wrong but does the UPA had aircraft of its own?
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Re: Germans in the UPA guerilla movement
Just in case if you don't know what UPA stands for,it stands for Ukrainian Partisan Army. This Army was armed mainly with captured Soviet weapons. The that the UPA had captured were Soviet too.
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The 'that' UPA had captured were Soviet aircraft.
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Re: Germans in the UPA guerilla movement
Hi Edward,
What Soviet aircraft, when and where?
What is your source?
I can find reference to one Po-2 in unknown condition taken back by the Red Army in 1944. The same source says of aircraft, ".....no OUN/UPA documents noted the usage of such equipment."
However, for your titillation, in the winter of 1938-39 the Sic Guard in Ruthenia did try to form an air force. From memory, it had five pilots in training but only two cars and no aircraft.
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Sid.
What Soviet aircraft, when and where?
What is your source?
I can find reference to one Po-2 in unknown condition taken back by the Red Army in 1944. The same source says of aircraft, ".....no OUN/UPA documents noted the usage of such equipment."
However, for your titillation, in the winter of 1938-39 the Sic Guard in Ruthenia did try to form an air force. From memory, it had five pilots in training but only two cars and no aircraft.
Cheers,
Sid.
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Re: Germans in the UPA guerilla movement
Hi Edward,
I have come across a photo of a UPA aircraft on p.202 of the following link: https://old.uinp.gov.ua/sites/default/f ... orenyh.pdf
It appears to be a German Go145 but the absence of the nearside wings rather undermines its potential usefulness!
However, it seems that a Soviet Po-2 was used on one occasion. A Google translation of the text reads:
"It is also known about cases when the insurgents hijacked planes: German reconnaissance Gotha 145 and Soviet U-2 (Po-2), which in the Red Army served as a scout and a bomber. We have a mention of the only case of the use of the plane by the insurgents, which, of course, was the exception, not the rule. During this flight, the flyers spread leaflets on the territory of Dolynshchyna (Ivano-Frankivsk region)."
The book might also be of wider use to you in your hunt for Germans in the UPA's ranks.
Cheers,
Sid
I have come across a photo of a UPA aircraft on p.202 of the following link: https://old.uinp.gov.ua/sites/default/f ... orenyh.pdf
It appears to be a German Go145 but the absence of the nearside wings rather undermines its potential usefulness!
However, it seems that a Soviet Po-2 was used on one occasion. A Google translation of the text reads:
"It is also known about cases when the insurgents hijacked planes: German reconnaissance Gotha 145 and Soviet U-2 (Po-2), which in the Red Army served as a scout and a bomber. We have a mention of the only case of the use of the plane by the insurgents, which, of course, was the exception, not the rule. During this flight, the flyers spread leaflets on the territory of Dolynshchyna (Ivano-Frankivsk region)."
The book might also be of wider use to you in your hunt for Germans in the UPA's ranks.
Cheers,
Sid
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Ukrainian Insurgent Army. UPA is an abbreviation from the name in Ukrainian - Ukrainska Povstanska Armya.Edward L. Hsiao wrote: ↑23 Feb 2021, 07:37Just in case if you don't know what UPA stands for,it stands for Ukrainian Partisan Army.