Soviet and German food issues late war

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Soviet and German food issues late war

Post by Admiral Bloonbeard » 31 Jul 2021 15:19

I often hear about the Soviets having food issues late war that brought them to near famine cases. But I also hear Soviet food production increasing. How can the Soviets reach near famine cases if food production increased? Also, how is Germany dealing with food late war?

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Re: Soviet and German food issues late war

Post by AriX » 03 Aug 2021 16:20

There was a famine in USSR in 1946-47. Somewhere 1.5 million people have died due to starvation. In 1944-45 situation was more tempered, since a lot of food for the Red Army was supplied by L-L.So a lot of fud was supplied to the civilians.
The critical time with food shortage was in late 1942-early 1943 when Ukraine was lost and all North Caucasus was under the occupation, the main agricultural regions of USSR.

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Re: Soviet and German food issues late war

Post by Admiral Bloonbeard » 03 Aug 2021 23:00

AriX wrote:
03 Aug 2021 16:20
There was a famine in USSR in 1946-47. Somewhere 1.5 million people have died due to starvation. In 1944-45 situation was more tempered, since a lot of food for the Red Army was supplied by L-L.So a lot of fud was supplied to the civilians.
The critical time with food shortage was in late 1942-early 1943 when Ukraine was lost and all North Caucasus was under the occupation, the main agricultural regions of USSR.
Do you have exact numbers for Soviet food production and consumption late war?

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Re: Soviet and German food issues late war

Post by AriX » 03 Aug 2021 23:22

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... node%2F350 - food production data is here among the other stat info.

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Re: Soviet and German food issues late war

Post by Admiral Bloonbeard » 04 Aug 2021 00:14

AriX wrote:
03 Aug 2021 23:22
http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... node%2F350 - food production data is here among the other stat info.
Does it include food consumption data as well?

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Re: Soviet and German food issues late war

Post by Admiral Bloonbeard » 05 Aug 2021 22:40

Does anyone have food consumption data?

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Re: Soviet and German food issues late war

Post by TheMarcksPlan » 07 Aug 2021 00:44

Admiral Bloonbeard wrote:I often hear about the Soviets having food issues late war that brought them to near famine cases. But I also hear Soviet food production increasing. How can the Soviets reach near famine cases if food production increased?
The book Hunger and War discusses this extensively. Search the title in my posts and you'll find many excerpts and discussion.

Starvation -caused deaths lagged food production problems because Soviet deaths were from chronic (slower) starvation rather than acute. Over months or years of caloric deficit, Soviet bodies broke down and many finally reached a point of death or incapacitation.

Deaths peaked in 43, after food supplies had started improving. Even in 44 many died from starvation because the damage to many workers was already too great to reverse.

By 45 the problem had largely disappeared.
https://medium.com/counterfactualww2
"The whole question of whether we win or lose the war depends on the Russians." - FDR, June 1942

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