Second battle for Rostov and Voronezeh in July 1942

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Second battle for Rostov and Voronezeh in July 1942

Post by Kelvin » 12 Nov 2021 06:30

Hi, from 21 to 31 July 1942, HG A took 87242 Soviet PoW, and during this period was the fall of Rostov on 25th July, did these POW figures all came from combat around Rostov ?

I see Rostov garrison was reasonably large : it had 2nd Guard Rifls Division, 30th, 31st and 339th Rifle divisions, 16th Rifle Brigade, 68th,76th and 81st Naval Rifle Brigades and 70th and 158th Fortified Regions and some NKVD units.

And from HG B POW list from 11-20 July was 20309, just after Starii Oskol pocket, and battle for Voronezeh was last until 15 jUly 1942, did this pow capture in this period exclusively came from Voronezh ? Thank

Voronezh garrision had two Rifle divisions (232 and 309) and 57 and 75th Fortified Regions.

BTW, Starii Oskol pocket had 40000 POW mentioned by Glantz book but during 1-10 July, HG B took 85673 POW, is it this figure is more accurate in this encirclement ? Thank

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Re: Second battle for Rostov and Voronezeh in July 1942

Post by TheMarcksPlan » 12 Nov 2021 21:40

Kelvin wrote:
12 Nov 2021 06:30
BTW, Starii Oskol pocket had 40000 POW mentioned by Glantz book but during 1-10 July, HG B took 85673 POW, is it this figure is more accurate in this encirclement ? Thank
As we discussed in the threads regarding Crimea and Kharkov '41, Ostheer often took thousands of PoW daily, even without operational-level encirclements. While the late-Fall '41 period seems to have yielded unusually large numbers of non-operational PoW, RKKA continued to yield PoW throughout the war whenever the Germans advanced. Ostheer took ~25k PoW, IIRC, in the first week of Kursk '43, for example.

So I would guess 40k for Starii Oskol is a ceiling for the number actually captured in the pocket while most of the 86k PoW were taken as Ostheer overran Soviet defenses at the tactical level.
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