Hungarian Stukas of 102/2 25 July 1944 vs 3 US Fighter Squadrons..was only about less than ten Ju-87 lost?
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losses of Hungarian Stukas of 102/2 25 July 1944?
Re: losses of Hungarian Stukas of 102/2 25 July 1944?
102./2. Zuhanóbombázó Század (102./2. Dive Bomber Squadron was attached to III./SG 77 on 25 July 1944:
25 Jul 44: the entire Gruppe (III./SG 77) was jumped this date over eastern Poland by a large formation of some 33 USAAF P-38 Lightnings from 82d Fighter Group and 34 P-51 Mustangs from 31st Fighter Group and virtually eliminated. The U.S. fighters were returning to Italy from a temporary stay in Ukraine (Operation “Frantic III”) and had just strafed Fp. Mielec/108 km ENE of Kraków where they claimed 12 fighters on the ground and 3 in the air. A few minutes later they happened upon the III./SG 77 formation and claimed 27 of the 44 Stukas encountered, including one Staffel of 9 that was annihilated.
102./2. did not accompany III./SG 77 on this date. It was based at Jasionka, no aircraft were shot down, one (1) Ju 87 was damaged on the ground by strafing P-38's; that afternoon (the 25th) 102./2. transferred to Krosno.
You can find a magnificently researched and detailed account of this day in:
Chorążykiewicz, Przemysław. Warplanes Over Southeastern Poland. Part One: The Slaughter of Stukas on 25 July 1944. Przemyśl: privately published, 2004. ISBN: 83-921502-0-1. Pb. 181p. Heavily illustrated. Dwgs.
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25 Jul 44: the entire Gruppe (III./SG 77) was jumped this date over eastern Poland by a large formation of some 33 USAAF P-38 Lightnings from 82d Fighter Group and 34 P-51 Mustangs from 31st Fighter Group and virtually eliminated. The U.S. fighters were returning to Italy from a temporary stay in Ukraine (Operation “Frantic III”) and had just strafed Fp. Mielec/108 km ENE of Kraków where they claimed 12 fighters on the ground and 3 in the air. A few minutes later they happened upon the III./SG 77 formation and claimed 27 of the 44 Stukas encountered, including one Staffel of 9 that was annihilated.
102./2. did not accompany III./SG 77 on this date. It was based at Jasionka, no aircraft were shot down, one (1) Ju 87 was damaged on the ground by strafing P-38's; that afternoon (the 25th) 102./2. transferred to Krosno.
You can find a magnificently researched and detailed account of this day in:
Chorążykiewicz, Przemysław. Warplanes Over Southeastern Poland. Part One: The Slaughter of Stukas on 25 July 1944. Przemyśl: privately published, 2004. ISBN: 83-921502-0-1. Pb. 181p. Heavily illustrated. Dwgs.
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Re: losses of Hungarian Stukas of 102/2 25 July 1944?
Thanks for clearing this up...years ago Id aske this question on another forum...the two responces I received were that for I/SG77 8 Ju 87Ds planes and for II/SG77 1 plane destroyed by enamy gunfire 25 July 1944
Re: losses of Hungarian Stukas of 102/2 25 July 1944?
Losses 25 July 1944:
Stab/SG 77 at Jasionka: two (2) Ju 87's (in the air or on the ground?).
I./SG 77 (Ju 87 D-5's) at Jasionka: six (6) Ju 87's shot down by enemy fighters, plus 1 or 2 more from 2./SG 77 shot up on the ground at Jasionka.
II./SG 77 (Fw 190's) at Jasionka: reported no losses to enemy action this date.
10.(Pz.)/SG 77 (Ju 87's) at Grójec/46 km S of Warsaw: reported no losses to enemy action this date.
Source:
Chorążykiewicz, Przemysław. Warplanes Over Southeastern Poland. Part One: The Slaughter of Stukas on 25 July 1944, page 120.
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Stab/SG 77 at Jasionka: two (2) Ju 87's (in the air or on the ground?).
I./SG 77 (Ju 87 D-5's) at Jasionka: six (6) Ju 87's shot down by enemy fighters, plus 1 or 2 more from 2./SG 77 shot up on the ground at Jasionka.
II./SG 77 (Fw 190's) at Jasionka: reported no losses to enemy action this date.
10.(Pz.)/SG 77 (Ju 87's) at Grójec/46 km S of Warsaw: reported no losses to enemy action this date.
Source:
Chorążykiewicz, Przemysław. Warplanes Over Southeastern Poland. Part One: The Slaughter of Stukas on 25 July 1944, page 120.
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Re: losses of Hungarian Stukas of 102/2 25 July 1944?
Thanks for replying