Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

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Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Kelvin » 22 Mar 2023 09:56

Hi, everyone, I would like to ask Soviet casualties in manpower and AFV in below battles in late July 1944

65th Army in Kozienice

11th Tank Corps and 2nd Guards Cavalry Corps

Anyone can help ? thank

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Art » 23 Mar 2023 08:19

Where is Kozienice? I can only find a town in Poland near Vistula.

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Kelvin » 23 Mar 2023 10:50

Hi, Art, my spelling wrong, it is Kleszczele for 65th Army and Siedlice for 11th TC and 2nd GD CC, thank

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Art » 23 Mar 2023 18:02

AFV losses of the 11 Tank Corps were:

18 Jul - 2 T-34 damaged
19 Jul - 1 T-34 writen off and 4 damaged
20 Jul - 6 T-34 written off, 1 T-34, 1 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
21 Jul - 2 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 5 T-34, 3 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
22 Jul - 5 T-34, 1 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
23 Jul - 1 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 36 T-34, 1 SU-85, 2 SU-76 damaged
24 Jul - 6 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 24 T-34, 2 SU-85 damaged
25 Jul - 2 IS w/o, 1 IS, 25 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
26 Jul - 7 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 1 IS, 29 T-34, 7 SU-85, 5 SU-76 damaged
27 Jul - 9 T-34 and 3 SU-76 w/o, 4 IS, 18 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
28 Jul - 2 SU-85 w/o, 3 IS, 11 T-34, 2 SU-76 damaged
29 Jul - 10 T-34 w/o, 10 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
30 Jul - 2 IS, 10 T-34 w/o, 2 SU-85 damaged
31 Jul - 1 IS and 5 T-34 damaged

By reason of loss:
Destroyed by cannon fire - 3 IS-122, 48 T-34, 3 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Destroyed by aircraft - 1 IS-122, 4 T-34, 1 SU-85
Damaged by cannon fire - 4 IS-122, 83 T-34, 7 SU-85, 10 SU-76
Damaged by mines - 7 T-34
Damaged by aircraft - 47 T-34, 14 SU-85, 2 SU-76
Technical malfunctions - 2 IS-122, 9 T-34, 2 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Wear - 6 IS-122, 29 T-34, 2 SU-76

On 24 July 44 the corps had 16 IS-122, 118 T-34, 19 SU-85 and 18 SU-76 operational
On 31 July - 6 IS-122, 91 T-34, 12 SU-85, 15 SU-76 operational
So the strength was more or less mantained

All that given in the report on technical operations of corps vehicles, which was unusually detailed
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586367

The corps after-action reports provides only marginally different numbers - 4 IS-122, 54 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 writte off, 592 men killed, 1007 wounded, 110 missing from 18 to 31 July
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586366

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Art » 23 Mar 2023 18:30

Losses of the 2 Gaurds Corps in 10 days (21-31 July) were 446 killed, 926 wounded, 1 missing and 29 others for a total of 1402 men. A large part of them was inflicted by German airstrikes
AFV losses were apparently light: as of 10 August the corps reported having 5 T-70, 2 M4A2 and 4 SU-76 totally destroyed.
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=451357111

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Kelvin » 24 Mar 2023 13:45

Art wrote:
23 Mar 2023 18:02
AFV losses of the 11 Tank Corps were:

18 Jul - 2 T-34 damaged
19 Jul - 1 T-34 writen off and 4 damaged
20 Jul - 6 T-34 written off, 1 T-34, 1 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
21 Jul - 2 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 5 T-34, 3 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
22 Jul - 5 T-34, 1 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
23 Jul - 1 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 36 T-34, 1 SU-85, 2 SU-76 damaged
24 Jul - 6 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 24 T-34, 2 SU-85 damaged
25 Jul - 2 IS w/o, 1 IS, 25 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
26 Jul - 7 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 1 IS, 29 T-34, 7 SU-85, 5 SU-76 damaged
27 Jul - 9 T-34 and 3 SU-76 w/o, 4 IS, 18 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
28 Jul - 2 SU-85 w/o, 3 IS, 11 T-34, 2 SU-76 damaged
29 Jul - 10 T-34 w/o, 10 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
30 Jul - 2 IS, 10 T-34 w/o, 2 SU-85 damaged
31 Jul - 1 IS and 5 T-34 damaged

By reason of loss:
Destroyed by cannon fire - 3 IS-122, 48 T-34, 3 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Destroyed by aircraft - 1 IS-122, 4 T-34, 1 SU-85
Damaged by cannon fire - 4 IS-122, 83 T-34, 7 SU-85, 10 SU-76
Damaged by mines - 7 T-34
Damaged by aircraft - 47 T-34, 14 SU-85, 2 SU-76
Technical malfunctions - 2 IS-122, 9 T-34, 2 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Wear - 6 IS-122, 29 T-34, 2 SU-76

On 24 July 44 the corps had 16 IS-122, 118 T-34, 19 SU-85 and 18 SU-76 operational
On 31 July - 6 IS-122, 91 T-34, 12 SU-85, 15 SU-76 operational
So the strength was more or less mantained

All that given in the report on technical operations of corps vehicles, which was unusually detailed
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586367

The corps after-action reports provides only marginally different numbers - 4 IS-122, 54 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 writte off, 592 men killed, 1007 wounded, 110 missing from 18 to 31 July
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586366
Hi, Art, thank for your help in both Soviet units' casualties.

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Vasilyev » 24 Mar 2023 15:20

1st Belorussian Front's war diary gives 65th Army's losses for July 21-31, 1944 as:

1,496 killed
4,099 wounded
159 missing
808 other causes

6,562 total, out of 11,736 for the entire month (2,369 July 1-10, 2,805 July 11-20). 65th Army's war diary says the same. The army received 1,896 replacements in July from its internal resources - convalescents, those locally mobilized directly to its Reserve Rifle Regiment, etc.

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Kelvin » 25 Mar 2023 03:46

Vasilyev wrote:
24 Mar 2023 15:20
1st Belorussian Front's war diary gives 65th Army's losses for July 21-31, 1944 as:

1,496 killed
4,099 wounded
159 missing
808 other causes

6,562 total, out of 11,736 for the entire month (2,369 July 1-10, 2,805 July 11-20). 65th Army's war diary says the same. The army received 1,896 replacements in July from its internal resources - convalescents, those locally mobilized directly to its Reserve Rifle Regiment, etc.
Hello, Vasilyev, thank so much for your help.

Soviet 65th Army had 7 x divisions : 37th Gd, 44th GD, 75th GD Rifle divisions, 15, 69, 193,354 and 356th Rifle Divisions, may I ask which division were attacked by Wiking and 4.Pz division at Kleszczele ? thank

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Art » 28 Mar 2023 12:27

Kelvin wrote:
25 Mar 2023 03:46
Soviet 65th Army had 7 x divisions : 37th Gd, 44th GD, 75th GD Rifle divisions, 15, 69, 193,354 and 356th Rifle Divisions
53 Rifle Corps (17, 82, 96 Rifle Divisions) was additionally committed in the process.
Armored troops were weak. As of 22 Jule the 65 Army had 4 self-propelled and 1 tank regiment with total 28 SU-76, 3 T-34 and 1 T-70 operational.
One tank brigade (31 T-34, 2 SU-76) and one self-propelled regiment (12 SU-76) were additionally assigned on 24 July plus 35 SU-76 were given as a batch of replacements.

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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944

Post by Kelvin » 29 Mar 2023 04:36

Art wrote:
28 Mar 2023 12:27
Kelvin wrote:
25 Mar 2023 03:46
Soviet 65th Army had 7 x divisions : 37th Gd, 44th GD, 75th GD Rifle divisions, 15, 69, 193,354 and 356th Rifle Divisions
53 Rifle Corps (17, 82, 96 Rifle Divisions) was additionally committed in the process.
Armored troops were weak. As of 22 Jule the 65 Army had 4 self-propelled and 1 tank regiment with total 28 SU-76, 3 T-34 and 1 T-70 operational.
One tank brigade (31 T-34, 2 SU-76) and one self-propelled regiment (12 SU-76) were additionally assigned on 24 July plus 35 SU-76 were given as a batch of replacements.
Hi, Art, thank for your additional information.

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