Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
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Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
Hi, everyone, I would like to ask Soviet casualties in manpower and AFV in below battles in late July 1944
65th Army in Kozienice
11th Tank Corps and 2nd Guards Cavalry Corps
Anyone can help ? thank
65th Army in Kozienice
11th Tank Corps and 2nd Guards Cavalry Corps
Anyone can help ? thank
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
Where is Kozienice? I can only find a town in Poland near Vistula.
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
Hi, Art, my spelling wrong, it is Kleszczele for 65th Army and Siedlice for 11th TC and 2nd GD CC, thank
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
AFV losses of the 11 Tank Corps were:
18 Jul - 2 T-34 damaged
19 Jul - 1 T-34 writen off and 4 damaged
20 Jul - 6 T-34 written off, 1 T-34, 1 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
21 Jul - 2 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 5 T-34, 3 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
22 Jul - 5 T-34, 1 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
23 Jul - 1 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 36 T-34, 1 SU-85, 2 SU-76 damaged
24 Jul - 6 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 24 T-34, 2 SU-85 damaged
25 Jul - 2 IS w/o, 1 IS, 25 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
26 Jul - 7 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 1 IS, 29 T-34, 7 SU-85, 5 SU-76 damaged
27 Jul - 9 T-34 and 3 SU-76 w/o, 4 IS, 18 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
28 Jul - 2 SU-85 w/o, 3 IS, 11 T-34, 2 SU-76 damaged
29 Jul - 10 T-34 w/o, 10 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
30 Jul - 2 IS, 10 T-34 w/o, 2 SU-85 damaged
31 Jul - 1 IS and 5 T-34 damaged
By reason of loss:
Destroyed by cannon fire - 3 IS-122, 48 T-34, 3 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Destroyed by aircraft - 1 IS-122, 4 T-34, 1 SU-85
Damaged by cannon fire - 4 IS-122, 83 T-34, 7 SU-85, 10 SU-76
Damaged by mines - 7 T-34
Damaged by aircraft - 47 T-34, 14 SU-85, 2 SU-76
Technical malfunctions - 2 IS-122, 9 T-34, 2 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Wear - 6 IS-122, 29 T-34, 2 SU-76
On 24 July 44 the corps had 16 IS-122, 118 T-34, 19 SU-85 and 18 SU-76 operational
On 31 July - 6 IS-122, 91 T-34, 12 SU-85, 15 SU-76 operational
So the strength was more or less mantained
All that given in the report on technical operations of corps vehicles, which was unusually detailed
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586367
The corps after-action reports provides only marginally different numbers - 4 IS-122, 54 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 writte off, 592 men killed, 1007 wounded, 110 missing from 18 to 31 July
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586366
18 Jul - 2 T-34 damaged
19 Jul - 1 T-34 writen off and 4 damaged
20 Jul - 6 T-34 written off, 1 T-34, 1 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
21 Jul - 2 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 5 T-34, 3 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
22 Jul - 5 T-34, 1 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
23 Jul - 1 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 36 T-34, 1 SU-85, 2 SU-76 damaged
24 Jul - 6 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 24 T-34, 2 SU-85 damaged
25 Jul - 2 IS w/o, 1 IS, 25 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
26 Jul - 7 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 1 IS, 29 T-34, 7 SU-85, 5 SU-76 damaged
27 Jul - 9 T-34 and 3 SU-76 w/o, 4 IS, 18 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
28 Jul - 2 SU-85 w/o, 3 IS, 11 T-34, 2 SU-76 damaged
29 Jul - 10 T-34 w/o, 10 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
30 Jul - 2 IS, 10 T-34 w/o, 2 SU-85 damaged
31 Jul - 1 IS and 5 T-34 damaged
By reason of loss:
Destroyed by cannon fire - 3 IS-122, 48 T-34, 3 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Destroyed by aircraft - 1 IS-122, 4 T-34, 1 SU-85
Damaged by cannon fire - 4 IS-122, 83 T-34, 7 SU-85, 10 SU-76
Damaged by mines - 7 T-34
Damaged by aircraft - 47 T-34, 14 SU-85, 2 SU-76
Technical malfunctions - 2 IS-122, 9 T-34, 2 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Wear - 6 IS-122, 29 T-34, 2 SU-76
On 24 July 44 the corps had 16 IS-122, 118 T-34, 19 SU-85 and 18 SU-76 operational
On 31 July - 6 IS-122, 91 T-34, 12 SU-85, 15 SU-76 operational
So the strength was more or less mantained
All that given in the report on technical operations of corps vehicles, which was unusually detailed
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586367
The corps after-action reports provides only marginally different numbers - 4 IS-122, 54 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 writte off, 592 men killed, 1007 wounded, 110 missing from 18 to 31 July
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586366
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
Losses of the 2 Gaurds Corps in 10 days (21-31 July) were 446 killed, 926 wounded, 1 missing and 29 others for a total of 1402 men. A large part of them was inflicted by German airstrikes
AFV losses were apparently light: as of 10 August the corps reported having 5 T-70, 2 M4A2 and 4 SU-76 totally destroyed.
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=451357111
AFV losses were apparently light: as of 10 August the corps reported having 5 T-70, 2 M4A2 and 4 SU-76 totally destroyed.
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=451357111
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
Hi, Art, thank for your help in both Soviet units' casualties.Art wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023 18:02AFV losses of the 11 Tank Corps were:
18 Jul - 2 T-34 damaged
19 Jul - 1 T-34 writen off and 4 damaged
20 Jul - 6 T-34 written off, 1 T-34, 1 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
21 Jul - 2 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 5 T-34, 3 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
22 Jul - 5 T-34, 1 SU-85, 1 SU-76 damaged
23 Jul - 1 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 36 T-34, 1 SU-85, 2 SU-76 damaged
24 Jul - 6 T-34 w/o, 1 IS, 24 T-34, 2 SU-85 damaged
25 Jul - 2 IS w/o, 1 IS, 25 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
26 Jul - 7 T-34 and 1 SU-85 w/o, 1 IS, 29 T-34, 7 SU-85, 5 SU-76 damaged
27 Jul - 9 T-34 and 3 SU-76 w/o, 4 IS, 18 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 damaged
28 Jul - 2 SU-85 w/o, 3 IS, 11 T-34, 2 SU-76 damaged
29 Jul - 10 T-34 w/o, 10 T-34, 1 SU-85 damaged
30 Jul - 2 IS, 10 T-34 w/o, 2 SU-85 damaged
31 Jul - 1 IS and 5 T-34 damaged
By reason of loss:
Destroyed by cannon fire - 3 IS-122, 48 T-34, 3 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Destroyed by aircraft - 1 IS-122, 4 T-34, 1 SU-85
Damaged by cannon fire - 4 IS-122, 83 T-34, 7 SU-85, 10 SU-76
Damaged by mines - 7 T-34
Damaged by aircraft - 47 T-34, 14 SU-85, 2 SU-76
Technical malfunctions - 2 IS-122, 9 T-34, 2 SU-85, 3 SU-76
Wear - 6 IS-122, 29 T-34, 2 SU-76
On 24 July 44 the corps had 16 IS-122, 118 T-34, 19 SU-85 and 18 SU-76 operational
On 31 July - 6 IS-122, 91 T-34, 12 SU-85, 15 SU-76 operational
So the strength was more or less mantained
All that given in the report on technical operations of corps vehicles, which was unusually detailed
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586367
The corps after-action reports provides only marginally different numbers - 4 IS-122, 54 T-34, 4 SU-85, 3 SU-76 writte off, 592 men killed, 1007 wounded, 110 missing from 18 to 31 July
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=134586366
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
1st Belorussian Front's war diary gives 65th Army's losses for July 21-31, 1944 as:
1,496 killed
4,099 wounded
159 missing
808 other causes
6,562 total, out of 11,736 for the entire month (2,369 July 1-10, 2,805 July 11-20). 65th Army's war diary says the same. The army received 1,896 replacements in July from its internal resources - convalescents, those locally mobilized directly to its Reserve Rifle Regiment, etc.
1,496 killed
4,099 wounded
159 missing
808 other causes
6,562 total, out of 11,736 for the entire month (2,369 July 1-10, 2,805 July 11-20). 65th Army's war diary says the same. The army received 1,896 replacements in July from its internal resources - convalescents, those locally mobilized directly to its Reserve Rifle Regiment, etc.
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
Hello, Vasilyev, thank so much for your help.Vasilyev wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023 15:201st Belorussian Front's war diary gives 65th Army's losses for July 21-31, 1944 as:
1,496 killed
4,099 wounded
159 missing
808 other causes
6,562 total, out of 11,736 for the entire month (2,369 July 1-10, 2,805 July 11-20). 65th Army's war diary says the same. The army received 1,896 replacements in July from its internal resources - convalescents, those locally mobilized directly to its Reserve Rifle Regiment, etc.
Soviet 65th Army had 7 x divisions : 37th Gd, 44th GD, 75th GD Rifle divisions, 15, 69, 193,354 and 356th Rifle Divisions, may I ask which division were attacked by Wiking and 4.Pz division at Kleszczele ? thank
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
You may try to consult German and Soviet situation maps:
https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/633748/map
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=100896893
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=100849005
https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/633748/map
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=100896893
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=100849005
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
53 Rifle Corps (17, 82, 96 Rifle Divisions) was additionally committed in the process.
Armored troops were weak. As of 22 Jule the 65 Army had 4 self-propelled and 1 tank regiment with total 28 SU-76, 3 T-34 and 1 T-70 operational.
One tank brigade (31 T-34, 2 SU-76) and one self-propelled regiment (12 SU-76) were additionally assigned on 24 July plus 35 SU-76 were given as a batch of replacements.
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Re: Soviet casualties/ tank loss in Siedlice and Kozienice 1944
Hi, Art, thank for your additional information.Art wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023 12:2753 Rifle Corps (17, 82, 96 Rifle Divisions) was additionally committed in the process.
Armored troops were weak. As of 22 Jule the 65 Army had 4 self-propelled and 1 tank regiment with total 28 SU-76, 3 T-34 and 1 T-70 operational.
One tank brigade (31 T-34, 2 SU-76) and one self-propelled regiment (12 SU-76) were additionally assigned on 24 July plus 35 SU-76 were given as a batch of replacements.