Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

Discussions on WW2 in Eastern Europe.
User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 9377
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

Post by tigre » 30 Jul 2005 16:19

Hi to all gentlemen

The military historians always mentioned the forgotten battles of the Russo-German front but what about the amphibious operations?, this topic was forgotten or neglectec as well. I've in mind for example the German amphibious assault on the baltic islands (Dago, Ossel) in 1941 as well yhe Russo amphibious assault in 1944; the German assault on the Kerch strait; the Russo (Soviet) amphibious assaults on Feodosia, Novorossyk, Eltingen and Petsamo area. Gentlemen, why not let's build the amphibious assault on the baltic islands (1941) or anyone else?. Gentlemen is up to you. Regards. Tigre.

User avatar
Kunikov
Member
Posts: 4455
Joined: 20 Jan 2004 19:23

Re: Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

Post by Kunikov » 31 Jul 2005 03:44

tigre wrote:Hi to all gentlemen

The military historians always mentioned the forgotten battles of the Russo-German front but what about the amphibious operations?, this topic was forgotten or neglectec as well. I've in mind for example the German amphibious assault on the baltic islands (Dago, Ossel) in 1941 as well yhe Russo amphibious assault in 1944; the German assault on the Kerch strait; the Russo (Soviet) amphibious assaults on Feodosia, Novorossyk, Eltingen and Petsamo area. Gentlemen, why not let's build the amphibious assault on the baltic islands (1941) or anyone else?. Gentlemen is up to you. Regards. Tigre.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... 95/ACB.htm

Also try "Blood on the Shores" by Victor Leonov and "Commandos from the Sea"

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 9377
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

Post by tigre » 31 Jul 2005 04:28

Thank you for the input Kunikov, useful info (any first hand account of the units involved will be appreciate); something from the German side (61 ID reports about the assault on Ossel and Dago and the 46 ID on the Kerch strait for example). Regards. Tigre

Andreas
Member
Posts: 6938
Joined: 10 Nov 2002 14:12
Location: Europe

Post by Andreas » 31 Jul 2005 08:08

If you speak German, 'Der Kampf um die Baltischen Inseln' by Melzer is a very good book dealing with the battles for Dago, Osel and Moon in 1918, 1941, and 1944.

All the best

Andreas

Panzermahn
Member
Posts: 3639
Joined: 13 Jul 2002 03:51
Location: Malaysia

Post by Panzermahn » 31 Jul 2005 11:58

The Soviets attempted an amphibitous assault at Mereküle, Narva, Estonia during the Battle of the European SS in 1944. 500 out of 525 Soviet troops landed were destroyed by two companies of Estonian Waffen SS troops.

regards
Panzermahn

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 9377
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

Post by tigre » 01 Aug 2005 23:21

Thank you gentlemen. Regards. Tigre.

Esa K
Member
Posts: 1254
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 13:49
Location: Sweden

Post by Esa K » 04 Aug 2005 21:09

Hi

On the eastern shore of the lake Ladoga near river Tuulos (Finnish name of the river) the Soviet 70. Naval Infantry Brigade made a landing in the rear of the Finnish 5. Division 23/6 1944. If it´s of interest I can provide some more facts and numbers about the operation.


regards

Esa K

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 9377
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

Post by tigre » 05 Aug 2005 01:13

Sure, it would be interesting to know about that operation. Thank you Esa K. Cheers. Tigre.

Mek
Member
Posts: 213
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 23:07
Location: Finland

Post by Mek » 05 Aug 2005 19:41

Esa K wrote: On the eastern shore of the lake Ladoga near river Tuulos (Finnish name of the river) the Soviet 70. Naval Infantry Brigade made a landing in the rear of the Finnish 5. Division 23/6 1944. If it´s of interest I can provide some more facts and numbers about the operation.
Also Soviet 59th Army tried to cross Bay of Viipuri between 30.6.1944 - 9.7.1944, but it was not succesful. There was also a German Greif division taking part in the defence action. Not really sure what units did 59th army consisted of, were there marines or other naval units?

Regards,
-Pete

User avatar
TISO
Member
Posts: 1011
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 01:25
Location: Slovenia - vojvodina Å tajerska

Post by TISO » 06 Aug 2005 16:19

Does anone have any photos of Soviet assault, transport boats in action?
All i have are photos and drawings of 5 and 15 ton tenders from Modelist - Konstruktor:
http://mkmagazin.almanacwhf.ru/other/ships/tender.htm

User avatar
BIGpanzer
Member
Posts: 2812
Joined: 12 Dec 2004 22:51
Location: Central Europe

Post by BIGpanzer » 06 Aug 2005 17:19

I know one good site: http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru , unfortunately, on Russian only.
Here you could find all info about Soviet ships of WWII, including landing vessels.

Some photos from the site:
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/bolinder.jpg ("Bolinder"-type landing barge, 255 t, built in 1915-1916, 3 copies, were used at Black Sea)

Also Soviets used 4 landing barges of SB-type (720 t, built in 1940s, were used at Baltic Sea); 4 landing barges of A-type (1055 t, built in 1941, were used in landing operations against Japan in August 1945); 1 landing barge of G-type (591 t, built in 1941, was used in landing operation against Japan).

http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/afp.jpg ("AFP/MFP"-type high-speed landing barges, Soviets captured 25 such German 250-t barges and used them at Black Sea (mainly) and Baltic Sea).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/siebel.jpg ("Siebel"-type landing 143t ferry, Soviets captured one and used it at Baltic Sea).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/lci945.jpg (Lend-Lease LCI-type landing ships, 380 t, Soviets received 30 copies and used them at Pacific Ocean in 1945).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/lct1.jpg (Lend-Lease LCT-type landing ships, 286 t, Soviets received 13 and used them mainly at Pacific Ocean in 1945, one - at Black Sea and two - by North Navy).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/tender_ld.jpg (landing boats of "Tender"-type, 26 t, 113 were built in 1942-43 and used very widely at Black and Baltic Seas).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/db.jpg , http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/db8.jpg , http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/db7.jpg (landing boats of DB-type, 19 t, 99 were built in 1942 and used at Black Sea)
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/dmb_ld.jpg (12 copies of DMB-type landing boats, 20 t, built in 1943, Black Sea).
Also 8 copies of DB-51-type landing boats (previous German and Finnish, 65 t) + 8 copies of DB-71-type landing boats (previous Japanese, 20 t) + 2 Lend-Lease LCM (29 t) + 2 Lend-Lease LCV (11 t) + 2 Lend-Lease LCP (52 t).

It should be also noted that during forced crossings in 1944-1945 Soviets used very widely Lend-Lease Ford GPA and GMC DUKW-353 amphibious cars, as well as surviving native amphibious light tanks T-37A, T-38 and T-40.

Esa K
Member
Posts: 1254
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 13:49
Location: Sweden

Post by Esa K » 09 Aug 2005 13:28

Have started a thread at the Winter & Continuation War forum here about the landing of the Soviet 70. Naval Brigade in Ladoga 1944

regards

Esa K

Jani K.
Member
Posts: 16
Joined: 27 Feb 2005 16:18
Location: Finland

Bay of Viipuri

Post by Jani K. » 11 Aug 2005 19:27

About the battles of Viipuri bay I would suggest reading (in finnish):

Lappalainen, Niilo:
Veren kostuttamat saaret - Teikarin ja Melanlahden taistelut kesällä 1944
(Islands Moistened by Blood - The Battles of Teikari and Melanlahti in the Summer 1944)
Kustannuspiste Oy, 1981[/quote]

User avatar
Benoit Douville
Financial supporter
Posts: 3184
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 01:13
Location: Montréal

Post by Benoit Douville » 03 Nov 2007 01:41

I don't think that the German amphibious assault was really discuss in depth here, if so I cannot find the thread. I would like to have more info about those forgotten Amphibious Assault.

Regards

User avatar
Sicshit
Member
Posts: 4
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 01:32
Location: Estland

Post by Sicshit » 03 Nov 2007 02:00

BIGpanzer wrote:I know one good site: http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru , unfortunately, on Russian only.
Here you could find all info about Soviet ships of WWII, including landing vessels.
If you need some information from Russian sites, i can try to do a translation, just give me the link or paste the text here.

Regards.

Return to “WW2 in Eastern Europe”